From: Robert Baer on
John Larkin wrote:
> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100428/D9FC0ES80.html
>
> Europe has an interesting dynamic. Multiple countries share a
> currency. So if one country, especially a small one, decides to spend
> more than they have, the other, presumably more prudent countries,
> wind up paying for it.
>
> In a single country with a single currency like the US, if we spend
> more than we have, we'll print money to cover it, and everybody in all
> the 50 states shares in the resulting inflation.
>
> Europe has national deficit rules to prevent excess inflation of the
> euro, but they aren't followed very well. Everybody has the incentive
> to cheat.
>
> Yikes! First Greece, then Portugal, and just now Spain!
>
> A 2-year Greek bond yields 23%
>
>
> John
>
>
Do not forget the other PIIGS: Italy is not too far behind..
From: Martin Brown on
John Larkin wrote:
> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100428/D9FC0ES80.html
>
> Europe has an interesting dynamic. Multiple countries share a
> currency. So if one country, especially a small one, decides to spend
> more than they have, the other, presumably more prudent countries,
> wind up paying for it.

Greece should never have been allowed into the Euro in the first place.
Their books were seriously cooked to qualify. Now the chickens come home
to roost - looks like Germany will be footing the bill.

There is a fantastic opportunity now for the spivs and speculators to
deliberately sink the economies of Greece and then Portugal to extract
money from the other Eurozone countries by extortion.
>
> In a single country with a single currency like the US, if we spend
> more than we have, we'll print money to cover it, and everybody in all
> the 50 states shares in the resulting inflation.
>
> Europe has national deficit rules to prevent excess inflation of the
> euro, but they aren't followed very well. Everybody has the incentive
> to cheat.
>
> Yikes! First Greece, then Portugal, and just now Spain!
>
> A 2-year Greek bond yields 23%

If you ever get paid. Only a madman would lend the Greek government
money. OTOH if you buy insurance off AIG it might still be profitable.

Regards,
Martin Brown
From: TheM on
>"Michael" <mrdarrett(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:f4d5b530-1b2b-4fb8-b8a7-
>
>California's bond ratings are rock solid in comparison...
>http://www.treasurer.ca.gov/ratings/history.asp
>
>Shocking.
>
>Michael

But California is even deeper in debts, 200% their BDP is it?

M


From: Dirk Bruere at NeoPax on
On 28/04/2010 17:00, John Larkin wrote:
> http://apnews.myway.com/article/20100428/D9FC0ES80.html
>
> Europe has an interesting dynamic. Multiple countries share a
> currency. So if one country, especially a small one, decides to spend
> more than they have, the other, presumably more prudent countries,
> wind up paying for it.
>
> In a single country with a single currency like the US, if we spend
> more than we have, we'll print money to cover it, and everybody in all
> the 50 states shares in the resulting inflation.
>
> Europe has national deficit rules to prevent excess inflation of the
> euro, but they aren't followed very well. Everybody has the incentive
> to cheat.
>
> Yikes! First Greece, then Portugal, and just now Spain!
>
> A 2-year Greek bond yields 23%

The end result is going to be either that Greece leaves the Euro or they
are going to be forced to make savage cuts to their public spending.

--
Dirk

http://www.transcendence.me.uk/ - Transcendence UK
http://www.blogtalkradio.com/onetribe - Occult Talk Show
From: Jan Panteltje on
On a sunny day (Thu, 29 Apr 2010 10:11:47 +0100) it happened Martin Brown
<|||newspam|||@nezumi.demon.co.uk> wrote in
<l3cCn.99246$u62.71930(a)newsfe10.iad>:

>> A 2-year Greek bond yields 23%
>
>If you ever get paid. Only a madman would lend the Greek government
>money. OTOH if you buy insurance off AIG it might still be profitable.
>
>Regards,
>Martin Brown

Democratic party == George Soros,
he found a new game perhaps, he was good and made a fortune with
speculating on the devaluation of the British pound many years ago.
Maybe, he has so much power [= money] now, he plays Greece, and Euro these days.
He once did give a lecture at some university with as subject
'On the destabilisation of Europe'.
I tried to get the text, but never succeeded.
I have his book 'The Alchemy of Finance', helped me a lot
to understand these issues.