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From: Jono on 8 Sep 2009 14:07
Fergus McMenemie wrote on 08/09/2009 :
> Hi,
>
> Anybody out there using a vodaphone femtocell to improve reception
> within their home etc.
>
> Vodaphone suggested I try one of these to improve the very poor
> reception around my home. However my bandwidth cap is rather low
> at 2G a month and I was wondering how much bandwidth the femtocell
> requires when:-
>
> Phone is in use making calls
>
> Phone is idle around the house
>
> Phone is off or well away from the house
>
> Regards Ferg

Crikey!

Not seen a post about these before & two of us make one on the same
day.

I should check for new messages before sending.

I'll be running some tests myself.


From: Jono on 8 Sep 2009 14:14
on 08/09/2009, Bob Eager supposed :
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:37:24 +0100, Rupert Moss-Eccardt wrote:
>
>>> Get over to DealExtreme and buy a home mobile repeater system. One
>>> aerial outside, one in the house. Two way boost for your mobile. Or
>>> you could make your own passive repeater with nothing more than two
>>> aerials and coax.
>>
>> DealExtreme.co.uk seems off-air at the moment and .com doesn't seem to
>> have such things. Any hints of elsewhere?
>
> You missed it....
>
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15391
>
> Might or might not be suitable but take another look...there may be more.

Do they not require a licence in the UK? (and only the mobile phone
companies can apply?)


From: Rupert Moss-Eccardt on 8 Sep 2009 14:34
Bob Eager wrote:
> On Tue, 08 Sep 2009 18:37:24 +0100, Rupert Moss-Eccardt wrote:
>
>>> Get over to DealExtreme and buy a home mobile repeater system. One
>>> aerial outside, one in the house. Two way boost for your mobile. Or
>>> you could make your own passive repeater with nothing more than two
>>> aerials and coax.
>> DealExtreme.co.uk seems off-air at the moment and .com doesn't seem to
>> have such things. Any hints of elsewhere?
>
> You missed it....
>
> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15391
>
> Might or might not be suitable but take another look...there may be more.

Ah thanks!

Didn't think to search for amplifier.
From: mark on 8 Sep 2009 15:29
On Sep 8, 12:09 pm, fer...(a)twig-me-uk.not.here (Fergus McMenemie)
wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Anybody out there using a vodaphone femtocell to improve reception
> within their home etc.
>
> Vodaphone suggested I try one of these to improve the very poor
> reception around my home. However my bandwidth cap is rather low
> at 2G a month and I was wondering how much bandwidth the femtocell
> requires when:-
>
>         Phone is in use making calls
>
>         Phone is idle around the house
>
>         Phone is off or well away from the house
>
> Regards Ferg

What bandwidth cap is this? With Vodaphone?

Femtocell access for voice traffic should not impact your Vodafone
data allowance - if there is any doubt in this, the voice calls will
be made over the same traffic channels as a normal 3G cell, only YOU
are providing the backhaul.

If your DSL cap is 2G a month then I would tend to look elsewhere.

Femtocell looks to the Ue as a normal 3G cell. When the Ue handsover
or reselects to the Femtocell cell it will utilise your DSL connection
for voice and data. At all other times the Ue will use the operators
2G/3G network and will not impact your DSL connection (although there
will be some minimal traffic to keep the secure connection alive
between the femtocell unit and the the Security Gateway in the
Vodafone core.

To my mind data over femtocell is dubious as the subscriber is paying
already for a DSL connection so why would the subscriber want to pay
additonal charges for data over femotcell to Vodafone.

Cheers,
Mark
From: Dennis Ferguson on 8 Sep 2009 15:37
On 2009-09-08, Jono <nothanks(a)blueyonder.invalid> wrote:
> on 08/09/2009, Bob Eager supposed :
>> You missed it....
>>
>> http://www.dealextreme.com/details.dx/sku.15391
>>
>> Might or might not be suitable but take another look...there may be more.
>
> Do they not require a licence in the UK? (and only the mobile phone
> companies can apply?)

Do mobile phones require individual licences in the UK, or do
they just need type approval with their use being otherwise
covered by the carriers' spectrum licences? Am I doing
something wrong by using phones I bought in Hong Kong?

The use of the spectrum by a repeater really isn't all
that different than use of the spectrum by a mobile phone,
so I would think that using the repeater legally should
not require anything beyond what you need to do to use a
mobile phone legally. I do think the spectrum licence
holder has the right to object to your use of any particular
kind of equipment in their spectrum, but if the man goes
to the trouble of buying equipment and installing and
cabling an outdoor antenna to improve the crappy service
at his house to the point where he can use it, would the
carrier really tell him he can't do that and needs to
live with their crappy service the way it is instead?

Dennis Ferguson
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