From: john on
In this fractal universe, energy
spectra repeat as one looks
smaller and smaller.

As the sun gives off neutrinos
because of a fusion of two
oppositely-charged HEPs
(High Energy Particles),given
off by the galactic jets where one
of the HEPs inverts and shares
the other's spin, giving off its
own spin as a neutrino, and joining with
the other to form a Hydrogen atom.

These neutrinos travel until encountering
and being absorbed by a galactic center
and used to separate the incoming
neutral matter into oppositely-charged HEPs
which are blown out the galactic jets.

These HEPs float around
the galaxy (Dark Matter?) until they attract
each other into large clouds, which
conglomerate into stars. The pressure at
the center of the star becomes great enough
to cause fusion of HEPs into matter, and the release
of neutrinos. The fusion releases large amounts of
energy, which becomes photons at the star's surface.

The HEPs are two different things. One is a
mini-black hole, and the other is a cloud of
mini-mini-black holes *fused* with
their HEP counterparts- thus at the
material stage. Mini-matter. Electron matter.
What electrons are constantly becoming as they
radiate the next energy spectrum down;
mini-neutrinos and mini-photons.

And it is this next energy spectrum down that
causes our gravity. Because just as neutrinos
are absorbed by galactic centers, causing
the repulsion between them,
mini-neutrinos are absorbed by mini-black holes (protons),
causing the repulsion between them.

Each electron is a cloud,
variously-shaped as it needs to be,
composed of millions of tiny radiating
bodies. The radiation from these
bodies is a spin just like neutrinos, but
10^27 times smaller, and it impacts on
protons. It is this radiation that causes our
matter's inertia and gravitation, for it is
coming from wherever there are electrons
(everywhere).

I can phrase these ideas a thousand different
ways because they are complete.

john
From: Sam Wormley on
On 6/30/10 2:47 PM, john wrote:
> As the sun gives off neutrinos because of a fusion of two
> oppositely-charged HEPs (High Energy Particles), given
> off by the galactic jets where one of the HEPs inverts and shares
> the other's spin, giving off its own spin as a neutrino, and joining with
> the other to form a Hydrogen atom.

Actually this is where the solar neutrinos come from, when
a proton turns into a neutron.
http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/fix/student/chapter17/17f02.html
http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr162/lect/energy/pp-chain.gif
From: Michael Moroney on
> I can phrase these ideas a thousand different
> ways because they are complete gibberish.

I fixed your post for you. nnttm.
From: Michael Moroney on
john <vegan16(a)accesscomm.ca> writes:

>On Jun 30, 4:01 pm, moro...(a)world.std.spaamtrap.com (Michael Moroney)
>wrote:
>> > I can phrase these ideas a thousand different
>> > ways because they are complete gibberish.
>>
>> I fixed your post for you. nnttm.

>Haha.
>No, that's anything giving credence
>to point particles, DM, DE, gravitationally-produced
>black holes, quantum tunnelling, perpetually-moving
>non-radiating electrons or anything to do with QM
>in general.
>You know- the fairy tale you believe in- with
>all the magic?

We already know things change as you go smaller. The Heisenberg
uncertainty principle changes everything.

1) I have a baseball. It is stationary to within 0.001 meters/second.
Where is the baseball? Sounds like a dumb question. A baseball is about
145 grams. HUP states delta(x)*delta(p) > hbar/2. Thus delta(p) is
1.45E-4 kg-m/s for my nearly stationary baseball. Solving for delta(x)
we get 3.63E-31 meters. We can measure the position of the baseball
pretty accurately!

2) I have an electron. It is stationary to within 0.001 meters/second.
Where is the electron? An electron has a mass of 9.109E-31 kg.
Solving HUP for delta(x) we get 0.05785 m or a little under 6 cm. Wow,
if we are able to hold an electron to that little motion, we'll have a
tough time finding it or at least nailing it down.

3) Let's find one of your ugjfhgijfdh thingies you claim exist within
an electron. Let's say it has a mass of 1 millionth of an electron.
If we try to find where it might be in our nearly stationary electron
we get nearly 58 km! If your ugjfhgijfdh thingy is made of a million
uirhvuierhnri thingies we get, oh never mind.

Let's try a different approach. The electron behaves like a point
particle the best we can measure, which is about 1E-18 m. We don't
know where a ugjfhgijfdh thingy is inside the electron, just that it
is in there. So delta(x) is 1E-18 m. From HUP, delta(p) must be
5.27E-17. If a ugjfhgijfdh thingy has a mass of 1 millionth of an
electron, it's mass will be 9.109E-34 kg. Solving for velocity we get
5.79E+16 m/s. That's just the uncertainty in the velocity. That's a tad
more than the speed of light. We'll have to do relativistic correction
to make sense of that.

Now, again, if the ugjfhgijfdh thingy is made of a million uirhvuierhnri
thingies we get, oh never mind.

What's the energy of a ugjfhgijfdh thingy? 1/2mv^2 and we get up to 1.52
joules each! With a million of those things the internal energy of an
electron would have to be around a million joules on average. With e=mc^2
the electron should have a mass of 1.37E-15 kg. What was that 9.109E-31
kg figure again?

How about a uirhvuierhnri thingy with a position of 1E-27 m? I think my
head just exploded.

So, who has the "fairy tale" with the magic?

This ignores the fact that neutrinoes are fermions and not bosons, or
maybe you don't know the difference, or that your magic perpetual motion
electrons constantly radiating energy without losing mass and evaporating,
etc.