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From: T i m on 7 Dec 2009 10:13 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:54:33 +0000, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: >> Ah, ok. I installed Trillian yesterday but didn't go any further >> because it looked like you had to have an Astra account to use it >> (whatever that is)? > >I have no idea. I never had one and used trillian for ages. Just >recently I have changed computer and haven't put anything other than the >MSN client on there (which I will as without doubt that is the worse IM >client I have ever seen!) Hmm, I start Trillian: http://www.trillian.im/ (from there) and I get the: "Welcome to TriLLianASTra 4.0 Build 119" and a big 'New Account" button. Clicking on that takes me to the Astra registration process? Maybe you have an older version? I can't try the OSX version as it's not out yet (so like Adium but in reverse). Is it the same actual program (rather than version) as you have there? Cheers, T i m
From: T i m on 7 Dec 2009 10:14 On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 13:57:46 +0000, peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk (Peter Ceresole) wrote: >T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > >> Q, If that concept was so good, why isn't it implemented on more (any >> other?) IM clients? > >Because the guys that did iChat are *better* at interfaces than the >other guys? > >Which I think is true. > >Same way that for me the Mac UI is *better* than the Windows one, >because Apple are better and more creative than Microsoft. It happens; >some people and groups are simply better than others. I sent a link to an example iChat text chat screen asking what they thought? You know what they said? "Is it for children?" Now you don't care what anyone else thinks because it works for you and that's all the counts but just because it's designed by Apple or loads of effort has gone into the UI doesn't mean it's *better* for everyone (and can't be because *better* is comparative and personal). Look at all the issues I had signing into iChat in the first place (in comparison with nearly every other IM client I've tried). Would you say that was a good example of the behaviour of a good IM client? Being 'cute' is of no use if you can't get it running? Out of interest, was iChat your first exposure to IM clients? As for you and I ... we know we are probably opposite ends of the Marmite scale, 'cute' for you is often 'pointless' to me and that's fine. Maybe you like things that are different and I like things that are familiar. Anyroadup, like I said, "one man's meat ..." Cheers, T i m
From: Woody on 7 Dec 2009 10:22 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 14:54:33 +0000, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) > wrote: > > > >> Ah, ok. I installed Trillian yesterday but didn't go any further > >> because it looked like you had to have an Astra account to use it > >> (whatever that is)? > > > >I have no idea. I never had one and used trillian for ages. Just > >recently I have changed computer and haven't put anything other than the > >MSN client on there (which I will as without doubt that is the worse IM > >client I have ever seen!) > > > Hmm, I start Trillian: > > http://www.trillian.im/ > > (from there) and I get the: > > "Welcome to TriLLianASTra 4.0 Build 119" and a big 'New Account" > button. > > Clicking on that takes me to the Astra registration process? > > Maybe you have an older version? > > I can't try the OSX version as it's not out yet (so like Adium but in > reverse). Well, yes, I use trillian in windows and adium in OSX, I wasn't particulalry looking for a different machine build of either of them, they both do the same job. > Is it the same actual program (rather than version) as you have there? Mine doesn't have anything about astra in it - maybe these things have changed. I have had it for years. However, when i install it on another machine, i don't press new account, I just go to the prefs and put my details in I will try it on my new machine next time I use it -- Woody
From: Woody on 7 Dec 2009 10:22 T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote: > As for you and I ... we know we are probably opposite ends of the > Marmite scale, 'cute' for you is often 'pointless' to me and that's > fine. Maybe you like things that are different and I like things that > are familiar. Wouldn't that be an indication that you both like things that are familiar? -- Woody
From: T i m on 7 Dec 2009 12:02
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:22:36 +0000, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody) wrote: >> "Welcome to TriLLianASTra 4.0 Build 119" and a big 'New Account" >> button. >> >> Clicking on that takes me to the Astra registration process? >> >> Maybe you have an older version? >> >Well, yes, I use trillian in windows and adium in OSX, I wasn't >particulalry looking for a different machine build of either of them, >they both do the same job. > >> Is it the same actual program (rather than version) as you have there? > >Mine doesn't have anything about astra in it - maybe these things have >changed. I have had it for years. I now suspect you have V3.X, they are now offering V4.x. I've found a copy of 3 and it looks like it will just start up as you say. > >However, when i install it on another machine, i don't press new >account, I just go to the prefs and put my details in With this V4 I don't think you'll get he choice. >I will try it on my new machine next time I use it Ok. Cheers, T i m |