From: T i m on
On Mon, 7 Dec 2009 15:22:37 +0000, usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk (Woody)
wrote:

>T i m <news(a)spaced.me.uk> wrote:
>
>> As for you and I ... we know we are probably opposite ends of the
>> Marmite scale, 'cute' for you is often 'pointless' to me and that's
>> fine. Maybe you like things that are different and I like things that
>> are familiar.
>
>Wouldn't that be an indication that you both like things that are
>familiar?


I like different things that are familiar that's for sure. ;-)

Using iChat was like finding the steering wheel on the left and the
pedals on the right. All the other cars had them both on the same side
(the side I was sitting). ;-)

Cheers, T i m
From: Peter Ceresole on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> > As for you and I ... we know we are probably opposite ends of the
> > Marmite scale, 'cute' for you is often 'pointless' to me and that's
> > fine. Maybe you like things that are different and I like things that
> > are familiar.
>
> Wouldn't that be an indication that you both like things that are
> familiar?

I certainly do.
--
Peter
From: Peter Ceresole on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> > Because the guys that did iChat are *better* at interfaces than the
> > other guys?
> >
> > Which I think is true.
>
> In this case, compared to adium, I think they are way off the mark.
> Adium is much better as an interface than iChat by default. but it also
> has the advantage of different networks, plus the ability to change your
> interface to one you prefer.

Does it let you do video chats? Because that was the deciding factor for
me when I started to use iChat. Any IM application that won't do video
as well as text and audio chats seems pretty pointless to me.

As for the interface, it's partly a matter of personal taste of course,
but objectively the way iChat places and displays the contributions is
clearer than any others I have seen- even if I didn't use them, because
of the limited capabilities of the clients.
--
Peter
From: Woody on
Peter Ceresole <peter(a)cara.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > > Because the guys that did iChat are *better* at interfaces than the
> > > other guys?
> > >
> > > Which I think is true.
> >
> > In this case, compared to adium, I think they are way off the mark.
> > Adium is much better as an interface than iChat by default. but it also
> > has the advantage of different networks, plus the ability to change your
> > interface to one you prefer.
>
> Does it let you do video chats? Because that was the deciding factor for
> me when I started to use iChat. Any IM application that won't do video
> as well as text and audio chats seems pretty pointless to me.

I am sure there are some. Video and audio chat is something that I never
want to do (actually so much so that having a video or audio element to
it I would see as a negative), so I have never looked into it.

I don't see that video has anything to do with instant messages, it is a
separate video conferencing thing.

> As for the interface, it's partly a matter of personal taste of course,
> but objectively the way iChat places and displays the contributions is
> clearer than any others I have seen- even if I didn't use them, because
> of the limited capabilities of the clients.

I would call it subjective rather than objective I would say. I find
adium clearer. The real reason I don't use iChat is partly as it doesn't
connect to more than one network, so I would have to run multiple
applications anyway, and partly as you don't get the choice. The
grouping of people in Adium I find a lot more logical, and don't find
the left right thing really adds anything to the clarity of the
conversation.




--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Chris Ridd on
On 2009-12-07 18:21:42 +0000, Woody said:

>> As for the interface, it's partly a matter of personal taste of course,
>> but objectively the way iChat places and displays the contributions is
>> clearer than any others I have seen- even if I didn't use them, because
>> of the limited capabilities of the clients.
>
> I would call it subjective rather than objective I would say. I find
> adium clearer. The real reason I don't use iChat is partly as it doesn't

I use Adium for the small amounts of IM that I do, because it doesn't
crash or misbehave so much with XMPP "buddies". But they're all ghastly
piles of cack, really.
--
Chris