From: Steve Hix on
In article <hp9apm$s2r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 04-03-2010 23:17, Davoud wrote:
> > I asked the UPS driver who delivered my wife's iPad if she was
>
> So they shipped UPS. That was stupid. UPS thinks putting
> something on a porch and beating feet back to the truck
> is a delivery.

Which is not how they operate if the sender requires a signature on
delivery.

The which is how Apple specified iPad delivery.

There is also a process if you *want* to opt out from the signature
requirement.

> Raining? Not their concern.
> Anyone home? Not their concern.

In this case, if you weren't home, they would not leave the package.

*Unless* you printed and signed the opt-out form, and left it at the
delivery point. Which I did, and came home mid-afternoon to find the
form gone, and the package tucked inside the screen door.

> Thieves and vandals in the neighborhood? Not their concern.

Beats having to depend on USPS, who in my experience pretty much blow
off undelivered/stolen in transit packages. Or have taken 14 days to
deliver priority mail across the state. If you don't care if it makes it
or not, they're OK.
From: JF Mezei on
Steve Hix wrote:

> *Unless* you printed and signed the opt-out form, and left it at the
> delivery point. Which I did, and came home mid-afternoon to find the
> form gone, and the package tucked inside the screen door.

There are zealous driver and there are lazy drivers. In residential
areas, they know that the odds of the house being empty during dytime
are high, and they also know how frustrated recipients get when they
come home with a piece of paper advising them that they weren't there
when UPS (or FedEx) tried to deliver and they'll try the next day (when
the person won'T be home either).

And even if you're home, you can't go to the toilet until you get your
package, because if the guy rings and you're in the toilet, the guy will
leave and you won't get your package.

Putting a piece of paper authorizing driver to leave package witout
signature is the best wy to get piece of mind and not be worried when
you go to the toilet that this is when the driver will arrive.
From: Jolly Roger on
In article <hp9apm$s2r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 04-03-2010 23:17, Davoud wrote:
> > I asked the UPS driver who delivered my wife's iPad if she was
>
> So they shipped UPS. That was stupid. UPS thinks putting
> something on a porch and beating feet back to the truck
> is a delivery.
>
> Raining? Not their concern.
> Anyone home? Not their concern.
> Thieves and vandals in the neighborhood? Not their concern.

That's not my experience. The UPS driver that delivered my iPad refused
to leave it at the front office of my apartments because it required my
signature and no other.

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From: James Sidbury on
In article <jollyroger-211FBE.18074804042010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

> In article <hp9apm$s2r$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
> > On 04-03-2010 23:17, Davoud wrote:
> > > I asked the UPS driver who delivered my wife's iPad if she was
> >
> > So they shipped UPS. That was stupid. UPS thinks putting
> > something on a porch and beating feet back to the truck
> > is a delivery.
> >
> > Raining? Not their concern.
> > Anyone home? Not their concern.
> > Thieves and vandals in the neighborhood? Not their concern.
>
> That's not my experience. The UPS driver that delivered my iPad refused
> to leave it at the front office of my apartments because it required my
> signature and no other.

Wow! I didn't know that a specific signature was an option with UPS. I
knew some UPS package instructions require signatures from someone at
the designated address.
From: Davoud on
Jolly Roger (I think) wrote:
> > That's not my experience. The UPS driver that delivered my iPad refused
> > to leave it at the front office of my apartments because it required my
> > signature and no other.

James Sidbury:
> Wow! I didn't know that a specific signature was an option with UPS. I
> knew some UPS package instructions require signatures from someone at
> the designated address.

They do and they don't. It needs to be someone from the same household,
not just someone who lives in the same apartment building. I signed for
the iPad that was addressed to my wife.

And there are always exceptions:

Apple's e-mailed shipping notices contain a link "Pre-sign for this
shipment." That leads one to the shipper's web site (UPS and FedEx, at
a minimum) where one may download a PDF containing a release form. On
the release form one can specify a neighbor, building superintendent,
or just about anyone else nearby to receive the shipment--or simply
have it left in a designated place without an additional signature
(i.e., additional to the one on the release form).

Furthermore, I seem to recall that FedEx has my instructions and
signature "on file" and leaves packages regardless; I do not need a
release form for each shipment.

Jolly Roger could have used the pre-sign form to instruct UPS to leave
his iPad at the front office; whether his front office is willing to
accept responsibility for such services I do not know.

Davoud

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