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From: Tom Harrington on 5 Apr 2010 01:56
In article <sehix-97752A.11063504042010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:

> In this case, if you weren't home, they would not leave the package.
>
> *Unless* you printed and signed the opt-out form, and left it at the
> delivery point. Which I did, and came home mid-afternoon to find the
> form gone, and the package tucked inside the screen door.

Interesting. I had expected to be out, and taped the form to my door.
But the driver showed up before I left. He said that they were not
supposed to honor those forms for iPad deliveries, and that he would not
have left it if I hadn't answered.

--
Tom "Tom" Harrington
Independent Mac OS X developer since 2002
http://www.atomicbird.com/
From: Wes Groleau on 5 Apr 2010 03:07
On 04-04-2010 11:31, Davoud wrote:
> I don't doubt what you say. I can only suggest that you try the USPS or
> FedEx or another carrier.

I'm glad your UPS folks have some brains. I make it a point to ask
anyone shipping to me to use USPS (or FedEx if large). I was miffed
recently when one item whose advert stated it would be USPS parcel post
was sent UPS instead. By coincidence, I _was_ home. I heard nothing,
but I decided to go to the mailbox. When I opened the front door,
the UPS truck was pulling away and the MacBook was on the porch.

--
Wes Groleau

Teacher Tip: Personalize Exercises
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1474
From: Wes Groleau on 5 Apr 2010 03:14
On 04-04-2010 14:06, Steve Hix wrote:
> Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> So they shipped UPS. That was stupid. UPS thinks putting
>> something on a porch and beating feet back to the truck
>> is a delivery.
>
> Which is not how they operate if the sender requires a signature on
> delivery.

Well, I'll give them that--if signature is required, they usually do try
to get one. Although I do remember a probably isolated incident
where I put in a claim of non-delivery and was told they left it
across the street. So I went across and asked and the guy apologized
for forgetting--and handed me a package labeled signature required
that had no signature. :-)

> Beats having to depend on USPS, who in my experience pretty much blow
> off undelivered/stolen in transit packages. Or have taken 14 days to
> deliver priority mail across the state. If you don't care if it makes it
> or not, they're OK.

My experience is that USPS is usually quite slow, but I've never failed
to get anything of value that I was expecting. And they never leave
thing on the porch. But I will admit that I sent my father in OK a huge
box from NY and he got it in two days, while a first clas letter
postmarked at his own post office got to his house ten days later!

--
Wes Groleau

I've noticed lately that the paranoid fear of computers becoming
intelligent and taking over the world has almost entirely disappeared
from the common culture. Near as I can tell, this coincides with
the release of MS-DOS.
-- Larry DeLuca
From: Steve Hix on 5 Apr 2010 03:22
In article <tph-2A3D6F.23561604042010(a)localhost>,
Tom Harrington <tph(a)pcisys.no.spam.dammit.net> wrote:

> In article <sehix-97752A.11063504042010(a)5ad64b5e.bb.sky.com>,
> Steve Hix <sehix(a)NOSPAMmac.comINVALID> wrote:
>
> > In this case, if you weren't home, they would not leave the package.
> >
> > *Unless* you printed and signed the opt-out form, and left it at the
> > delivery point. Which I did, and came home mid-afternoon to find the
> > form gone, and the package tucked inside the screen door.
>
> Interesting. I had expected to be out, and taped the form to my door.
> But the driver showed up before I left. He said that they were not
> supposed to honor those forms for iPad deliveries, and that he would not
> have left it if I hadn't answered.

So much for universal company policies...
From: Thomas R. Kettler on 5 Apr 2010 12:36
In article <hpc27r$qoi$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 04-04-2010 11:31, Davoud wrote:
> > I don't doubt what you say. I can only suggest that you try the USPS or
> > FedEx or another carrier.
>
> I'm glad your UPS folks have some brains. I make it a point to ask
> anyone shipping to me to use USPS (or FedEx if large). I was miffed
> recently when one item whose advert stated it would be USPS parcel post
> was sent UPS instead. By coincidence, I _was_ home. I heard nothing,
> but I decided to go to the mailbox. When I opened the front door,
> the UPS truck was pulling away and the MacBook was on the porch.

Your experiences with UPS mirrors mine.

When I used to order DVD's from Columbia House years ago, they used UPS.
Twice they left the DVD's in front of the apartment door and the DVD's
were stolen. I would have to wait an entire month for Columbia House to
be willing to send a replacement set.

Also, I was a member of the Cincinnati PBS station and they sent me a
thank you gift one year with UPS. UPS never left me a note indicating
that they came and did not see me. Instead, they returned it to the PBS
station.

I try to avoid using UPS if at all possible.
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