From: Alan Baker on
In article <XXvsn.3397$kj3.2957(a)newsfe08.iad>,
"Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> news:alangbaker-8072DD.15542330032010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> > In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>,
> > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >
> >> They just work?? Intuitive??
> >>
> >> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/
> >>
> >> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an iPad
> >> at
> >> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for InformationWeek.
> >> "The
> >> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and more,'
> >> Apple said Monday."
> >>
> >> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for online
> >> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In addition
> >> to
> >> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users
> >> learn
> >> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the
> >> functions
> >> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player."
> >
> > LOL
> >
> > In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must be
> > indispensable...
>
> Well put.
>
> However, what happened to "just work"? It probably is indispensable in
> very many cases.
> Not everyone is in the computer business like you.

Nothing happened to it.

What you don't get is that the iPad is in large part being directed at
people for whom the whole notion of a computing device is still very
unfamiliar.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Mocassin joe on

"Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> wrote in message
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>
>
> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:XXvsn.3397$kj3.2957(a)newsfe08.iad...
>>
>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> news:alangbaker-8072DD.15542330032010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>>> In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>,
>>> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> They just work?? Intuitive??
>>>>
>>>> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/
>>>>
>>>> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an
>>>> iPad at
>>>> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for InformationWeek.
>>>> "The
>>>> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and
>>>> more,'
>>>> Apple said Monday."
>>>>
>>>> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for
>>>> online
>>>> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In
>>>> addition to
>>>> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users
>>>> learn
>>>> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the
>>>> functions
>>>> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player."
>>>
>>> LOL
>>>
>>> In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must be
>>> indispensable...
>>
>> Well put.
>>
>> However, what happened to "just work"? It probably is indispensable in
>> very many cases.
>
> If you could come up with a system where someone's email account can
> magically "just-work" out of the box without configuration then I'm sure a
> lot of people would be very interested in your idea.
>
>> Not everyone is in the computer business like you.
>
> The reality is that setting up an email client requires more technical
> knowledge than many can handle. (user name, incoming/outgoing servers,
> password, login-type, etc.)

I have heard time and again that it was so easy on a Mac that it "just
works". Now you are claiming it's not.


From: Mocassin joe on

"Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> wrote in message
news:hou1ql$6pn$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>
>
> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> news:Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad...
>> They just work?? Intuitive??
>>
>> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/
>>
>> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an iPad
>> at one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for InformationWeek.
>> "The services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and
>> more,' Apple said Monday."
>>
>> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for online
>> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In addition
>> to setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users
>> learn more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the
>> functions of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player."
>>
>
> Wow - making things extra easy for users sounds like such a huge problem.
> I hope they can recover from this.

Macs just work.


From: Alan Baker on
In article <ywxsn.44328$y13.23800(a)newsfe12.iad>,
"Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote:

> "Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> wrote in message
> news:hou2hq$98j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >
> >
> > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message
> > news:XXvsn.3397$kj3.2957(a)newsfe08.iad...
> >>
> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
> >> news:alangbaker-8072DD.15542330032010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> >>> In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>,
> >>> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> They just work?? Intuitive??
> >>>>
> >>>> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/
> >>>>
> >>>> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an
> >>>> iPad at
> >>>> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for InformationWeek.
> >>>> "The
> >>>> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and
> >>>> more,'
> >>>> Apple said Monday."
> >>>>
> >>>> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for
> >>>> online
> >>>> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In
> >>>> addition to
> >>>> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users
> >>>> learn
> >>>> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the
> >>>> functions
> >>>> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player."
> >>>
> >>> LOL
> >>>
> >>> In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must be
> >>> indispensable...
> >>
> >> Well put.
> >>
> >> However, what happened to "just work"? It probably is indispensable in
> >> very many cases.
> >
> > If you could come up with a system where someone's email account can
> > magically "just-work" out of the box without configuration then I'm sure a
> > lot of people would be very interested in your idea.
> >
> >> Not everyone is in the computer business like you.
> >
> > The reality is that setting up an email client requires more technical
> > knowledge than many can handle. (user name, incoming/outgoing servers,
> > password, login-type, etc.)
>
> I have heard time and again that it was so easy on a Mac that it "just
> works". Now you are claiming it's not.

Nope.

I'm claiming that there are people for whom any kind of computer is very
intimidating.

--
Alan Baker
Vancouver, British Columbia
<http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg>
From: Mocassin joe on

"Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
news:alangbaker-E5C702.18282330032010(a)news.shawcable.com...
> In article <ywxsn.44328$y13.23800(a)newsfe12.iad>,
> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>> "Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> wrote in message
>> news:hou2hq$98j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> >
>> >
>> > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>> > news:XXvsn.3397$kj3.2957(a)newsfe08.iad...
>> >>
>> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message
>> >> news:alangbaker-8072DD.15542330032010(a)news.shawcable.com...
>> >>> In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>,
>> >>> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote:
>> >>>
>> >>>> They just work?? Intuitive??
>> >>>>
>> >>>> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/
>> >>>>
>> >>>> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an
>> >>>> iPad at
>> >>>> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for
>> >>>> InformationWeek.
>> >>>> "The
>> >>>> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and
>> >>>> more,'
>> >>>> Apple said Monday."
>> >>>>
>> >>>> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for
>> >>>> online
>> >>>> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In
>> >>>> addition to
>> >>>> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users
>> >>>> learn
>> >>>> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the
>> >>>> functions
>> >>>> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player."
>> >>>
>> >>> LOL
>> >>>
>> >>> In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must
>> >>> be
>> >>> indispensable...
>> >>
>> >> Well put.
>> >>
>> >> However, what happened to "just work"? It probably is indispensable
>> >> in
>> >> very many cases.
>> >
>> > If you could come up with a system where someone's email account can
>> > magically "just-work" out of the box without configuration then I'm
>> > sure a
>> > lot of people would be very interested in your idea.
>> >
>> >> Not everyone is in the computer business like you.
>> >
>> > The reality is that setting up an email client requires more technical
>> > knowledge than many can handle. (user name, incoming/outgoing servers,
>> > password, login-type, etc.)
>>
>> I have heard time and again that it was so easy on a Mac that it "just
>> works". Now you are claiming it's not.
>
> Nope.
>
> I'm claiming that there are people for whom any kind of computer is very
> intimidating.

Actually, Ezekiel said it............................Oops....