iPad - so intutive you need an Apple Genius to set it up
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From: Mocassin joe on 30 Mar 2010 22:00 "Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> wrote in message news:hou9s0$rgv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:ywxsn.44328$y13.23800(a)newsfe12.iad... >> >> "Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> wrote in message >> news:hou2hq$98j$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... >>> >>> >>> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message >>> news:XXvsn.3397$kj3.2957(a)newsfe08.iad... >>>> >>>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >>>> news:alangbaker-8072DD.15542330032010(a)news.shawcable.com... >>>>> In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>, >>>>> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> They just work?? Intuitive?? >>>>>> >>>>>> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/ >>>>>> >>>>>> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an >>>>>> iPad at >>>>>> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for >>>>>> InformationWeek. "The >>>>>> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and >>>>>> more,' >>>>>> Apple said Monday." >>>>>> >>>>>> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for >>>>>> online >>>>>> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In >>>>>> addition to >>>>>> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users >>>>>> learn >>>>>> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the >>>>>> functions >>>>>> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player." >>>>> >>>>> LOL >>>>> >>>>> In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must be >>>>> indispensable... >>>> >>>> Well put. >>>> >>>> However, what happened to "just work"? It probably is indispensable >>>> in very many cases. >>> >>> If you could come up with a system where someone's email account can >>> magically "just-work" out of the box without configuration then I'm sure >>> a lot of people would be very interested in your idea. >>> >>>> Not everyone is in the computer business like you. >>> >>> The reality is that setting up an email client requires more technical >>> knowledge than many can handle. (user name, incoming/outgoing servers, >>> password, login-type, etc.) >> >> I have heard time and again that it was so easy on a Mac that it "just >> works". Now you are claiming it's not. > > It does "just work" - but there's no way possible for this, or any device > to know what mail server you need to connect to in order to get your mail > or what wireless access point and password to use for wireless access. > Some are easier and more reliable to configure than others but as of today > some degree of configuration is still needed. There's just no avoiding > that. Yeeesss, Alan. Anything you say, Alan.
From: Mocassin joe on 30 Mar 2010 23:08 "Ezekiel" <Me(a)Not-there.com> wrote in message news:houaom$uab$1(a)news.eternal-september.org... > > > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote in message > news:z_xsn.44337$y13.41073(a)newsfe12.iad... >> >> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >> news:alangbaker-0E05F4.18185630032010(a)news.shawcable.com... >>> In article <XXvsn.3397$kj3.2957(a)newsfe08.iad>, >>> "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: >>> >>>> "Alan Baker" <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote in message >>>> news:alangbaker-8072DD.15542330032010(a)news.shawcable.com... >>>> > In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>, >>>> > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: >>>> > >>>> >> They just work?? Intuitive?? >>>> >> >>>> >> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/ >>>> >> >>>> >> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an >>>> >> iPad >>>> >> at >>>> >> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for >>>> >> InformationWeek. >>>> >> "The >>>> >> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and >>>> >> more,' >>>> >> Apple said Monday." >>>> >> >>>> >> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for >>>> >> online >>>> >> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In >>>> >> addition >>>> >> to >>>> >> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users >>>> >> learn >>>> >> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the >>>> >> functions >>>> >> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player." >>>> > >>>> > LOL >>>> > >>>> > In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must >>>> > be >>>> > indispensable... >>>> >>>> Well put. >>>> >>>> However, what happened to "just work"? It probably is indispensable >>>> in >>>> very many cases. >>>> Not everyone is in the computer business like you. >>> >>> Nothing happened to it. >>> >>> What you don't get is that the iPad is in large part being directed at >>> people for whom the whole notion of a computing device is still very >>> unfamiliar. >> >> But I thought that Macs were so "intuitive" that anyone could use them. >> Now you're saying something different. >> > >> I see seventy and eighty year old without any real computer experience >> constantly buying PC's with Win 7 on them and having no problems at all. > > Then these people would also have no problem with a Mac or iPad. > > If this is the "best" argument that you can possibly make against the iPad > then you're scraping the bottom of the barrel. You really have no argument > at all. It's akin to arguing that the device is bad because the > quick-start guide is printed on semi-gloss paper instead of full gloss. "intuitive", remember?
From: chrisv on 31 Mar 2010 08:26 Alan Baker wrote: > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: *plonk* We've had enough of your Apple bickering.
From: JEDIDIAH on 31 Mar 2010 14:56 On 2010-03-30, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>, > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: > >> They just work?? Intuitive?? >> >> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/ >> >> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an iPad at >> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for InformationWeek. "The >> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and more,' >> Apple said Monday." >> >> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for online >> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In addition to >> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users learn >> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the functions >> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player." > > LOL > > In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must be > indispensable... There isn't much marketing value to offering something that's useless. You can go into an Apple store for yourself and see the rubes being taught how to use iTunes and whatnot. I've always been fascinated by the "training" and "consulting" aspect of Apple stores. It's a very sly way of glossing over Apple's usability issues. -- vi isn't easy to use. ||| / | \ vi is easy to REPLACE.
From: Alan Baker on 31 Mar 2010 15:30
In article <slrnhr76mh.qv0.jedi(a)nomad.mishnet>, JEDIDIAH <jedi(a)nomad.mishnet> wrote: > On 2010-03-30, Alan Baker <alangbaker(a)telus.net> wrote: > > > > > > In article <Jbvsn.33511$EE6.23290(a)newsfe23.iad>, > > "Mocassin joe" <joemocasanto(a)aol.com> wrote: > > > >> They just work?? Intuitive?? > >> > >> http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24584/ > >> > >> Apple is promising free setup services for customers who purchase an iPad > >> at > >> one of its retail stores," Paul McDougall reports for InformationWeek. > >> "The > >> services includes e-mail configuration, application loading, 'and more,' > >> Apple said Monday." > >> > >> "The iPad is slated to be in Apple retail stores and available for online > >> purchase starting Saturday [April 3rd]," McDougall reports. "In addition > >> to > >> setup services, the stores will offer iPad 'workshops' to help users learn > >> more about the tablet-style computing device, which combines the functions > >> of a notebook, e-reader, and portable video and music player." > > > > LOL > > > > In your world, because something is offered as an incentive it must be > > indispensable... > > There isn't much marketing value to offering something that's useless. Tell that to all the infomercial products... > > You can go into an Apple store for yourself and see the rubes being > taught how to use iTunes and whatnot. I've always been fascinated by the > "training" and "consulting" aspect of Apple stores. > > It's a very sly way of glossing over Apple's usability issues. Nope. It's a smart way of getting people past their own apprehension. -- Alan Baker Vancouver, British Columbia <http://gallery.me.com/alangbaker/100008/DSCF0162/web.jpg> |