From: Woody on
We recently had a holiday travelling across the bottom right states by
car, from florida to texas and round in a shallow oval. 3 Weeks, 4500
miles.

Before I went when I was getting the car, the hire company wanted �100
for a GPS for the car for 3 weeks, and you know it is going to be the
cheapest one going, which is probably less that the price.

Then I found that Co-pilot live had a sale which meant that copilot US
was �11. So I bought it, and a holder for the iPhone from eBay for �3
(well, 50p and �2.50 shipping). I didn't know how good it would be after
Zoaras roundup of GPSs

Picked up the car after a few days in florida and headed out. Luckily
the car had an audio input, so I could also use iTunes on it at the same
time, and copilot has iTunes control.

Display is clear, and it does the usual 2d or 3d display, which can work
in portrait or landscape. Voices are clear and if you select the
'digital' voice, it says the names of streets (and actually does a
reasonable job of it).
Overlays are good giving you the signposts you need to look for, and
given the space the display is clear.

Day / night changeover is good and in night mode is much easier on the
eyes than my tom-tom that I am used to.

Tracking I was concerned about after Zoaras posts, but I found it to be
quick to acquire a signal, and surprisingly accurate. I wouldn't bother
with a separate GPS controller, even if I had one [1].

The thing that made it really work for me all the way across the states
was that you could just say 'points of interest' -> Restaurant ->
Italian for example and it would show you the distance to the
restaurants, same as hotels, parking etc. Its points of interest
database is very comprehensive and was only wrong a couple of times
(barnes and noble and starbucks that were no longer there). It was very
useful.

Downsides are that the iTunes control is a bit fiddly, when it doesn't
need to be. I would have preferred an iTunes 'next' button, rather than
an iTunes overlay, but it did the job. It also seemed a bit power
hungry, you wouldn't want to do it not plugged in.

All in all, I would have no problem swapping it for my tomtom 510 in day
to day use if I had a good cradle to put it in in my car. It has already
replaced the tomtom one in Sabs [2].


[1] However, trying Sabs iPhone out today in the UK version, her GPS
thought I was in a different road, and dropped the signal a lot. THought
it may be the UK one being different, but no, with both together, mine
got the road right, hers was wrong, and was quite a way behind mine as
well. I guess all iPhone GPSs are not made equal.

[2] using my iPhone. Need to get hers sorted.


--
Woody

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From: D.M. Procida on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> [2] using my iPhone. Need to get hers sorted.

Worn off the keycaps again, has she?

Daniele
From: Woody on
D.M. Procida <real-not-anti-spam-address(a)apple-juice.co.uk> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>
> > [2] using my iPhone. Need to get hers sorted.
>
> Worn off the keycaps again, has she?

hehe - she would if she could. Actualy the 13" aluminium MacBook is
faring pretty well.


--
Woody

www.alienrat.com
From: Jon B on
Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:

> We recently had a holiday travelling across the bottom right states by
> car, from florida to texas and round in a shallow oval. 3 Weeks, 4500
> miles.
>
> Before I went when I was getting the car, the hire company wanted �100
> for a GPS for the car for 3 weeks, and you know it is going to be the
> cheapest one going, which is probably less that the price.
>
> Then I found that Co-pilot live had a sale which meant that copilot US
> was �11. So I bought it, and a holder for the iPhone from eBay for �3
> (well, 50p and �2.50 shipping). I didn't know how good it would be after
> Zoaras roundup of GPSs
>
> Picked up the car after a few days in florida and headed out. Luckily
> the car had an audio input, so I could also use iTunes on it at the same
> time, and copilot has iTunes control.
>
> Display is clear, and it does the usual 2d or 3d display, which can work
> in portrait or landscape. Voices are clear and if you select the
> 'digital' voice, it says the names of streets (and actually does a
> reasonable job of it).
> Overlays are good giving you the signposts you need to look for, and
> given the space the display is clear.
>
> Day / night changeover is good and in night mode is much easier on the
> eyes than my tom-tom that I am used to.
>
I find the night colours confusing, so stick to the day colours all the
time. I do like the fact that most items can be configured to your own
choices though.

> Tracking I was concerned about after Zoaras posts, but I found it to be
> quick to acquire a signal, and surprisingly accurate. I wouldn't bother
> with a separate GPS controller, even if I had one [1].
>
> The thing that made it really work for me all the way across the states
> was that you could just say 'points of interest' -> Restaurant ->
> Italian for example and it would show you the distance to the
> restaurants, same as hotels, parking etc. Its points of interest
> database is very comprehensive and was only wrong a couple of times
> (barnes and noble and starbucks that were no longer there). It was very
> useful.
>
> Downsides are that the iTunes control is a bit fiddly, when it doesn't
> need to be. I would have preferred an iTunes 'next' button, rather than
> an iTunes overlay, but it did the job. It also seemed a bit power
> hungry, you wouldn't want to do it not plugged in.
>
Agreed to those. First thing you need is a car charger to go with, and
ideally get the passengers to skip tracks.

> All in all, I would have no problem swapping it for my tomtom 510 in day
> to day use if I had a good cradle to put it in in my car. It has already
> replaced the tomtom one in Sabs [2].
>

My needs for sat nav are occasional, but at �26 very useful app to have
in the arsenal. I had the sat nav app on the N95 and this is just leaps
and bounds better in so many ways. I would never have really told anyone
to look at the Nokia GPS over a sat nav, but this I would. At least
unless you are the type that lives with the sat nav bolted to the
windscreen all the time.
>
> [1] However, trying Sabs iPhone out today in the UK version, her GPS
> thought I was in a different road, and dropped the signal a lot. THought
> it may be the UK one being different, but no, with both together, mine
> got the road right, hers was wrong, and was quite a way behind mine as
> well. I guess all iPhone GPSs are not made equal.
>
Mine sometimes drops me on a parallel road for a few yards, but at least
you can see enough of the route ahead to see when to ignore it. I think
thats down to the iPhone GPS more than anything, and for now it's
accurate enough. Think I have read somewhere (Zoara?) that the 3GS has a
better GPS chip than the my 3G.
--
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From: Woody on
Jon B <black.hole(a)jonbradbury.com> wrote:

> Woody <usenet(a)alienrat.co.uk> wrote:
>

> > [1] However, trying Sabs iPhone out today in the UK version, her GPS
> > thought I was in a different road, and dropped the signal a lot. THought
> > it may be the UK one being different, but no, with both together, mine
> > got the road right, hers was wrong, and was quite a way behind mine as
> > well. I guess all iPhone GPSs are not made equal.
> >
> Mine sometimes drops me on a parallel road for a few yards, but at least
> you can see enough of the route ahead to see when to ignore it. I think
> thats down to the iPhone GPS more than anything, and for now it's
> accurate enough. Think I have read somewhere (Zoara?) that the 3GS has a
> better GPS chip than the my 3G.

Both of ours are 3GSs. Mine is great, hers less so.
Running both together they show a different position!

--
Woody

www.alienrat.com