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From: salgud on 15 Jun 2010 10:52
On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 17:10:10 -0400, Wes Groleau wrote:

> On 06-14-2010 15:36, salgud wrote:
>> The obvious implication of what you wrote is trying to spread the blame
>> rather then address the fact that Apple/iSteve is taking advantage of those
>> Chinese laborers.
>
> The obvious implication of all the noise you are making about Steve Jobs
> while ignoring the others is that you are a hypocrite who doesn't really
> care about the laborers at all. You just want to take advantage of them
> to pick on Jobs.

Ok, so you're going to have to explain this to me. I complain here about
Sony, Dell, or which company? So then I go to a NG about Dell products, and
complain about Apple?
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jun 2010 11:17
In article <105j8ow1yxof6$.1wbm86w9epwtd.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
salgud <spamboy6547(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> On Mon, 14 Jun 2010 13:05:21 -0700, Michelle Steiner wrote:
>
> > In article <hmoaypwlur4r$.pfow28v5nohp$.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
> > salgud <spamboy6547(a)comcast.net> wrote:
> >
> >>> There you go again; I didn't say that it's OK for Apple to do it. The
> >>> obvious implication of what I wrote is that if you're going to
> >>> criticize any of those companies for it, you should criticize those
> >>> other companies as well.
> >>
> >> The obvious implication of what you wrote is trying to spread the blame
> >> rather then address the fact that Apple/iSteve is taking advantage of
> >> those Chinese laborers.
> >
> > The first obvious implication of what you wrote is that you don't care that
> > the other companies are just as culpable as Apple is, and that you let your
> > irrational obsession with Steve Jobs overcome whatever sense of reason you
> > may have.
> >
> Gee, and here I thought this NG was about an APPLE product, the iPhone. Is
> this where I come to discuss Sony, or is it Dell?
>
> > The second obvious implication of what you wrote is that your irrational
> > and unjustified dislike of me causes you to lie about me.
>
> Of course, no one could dislike you for good reasons, like your
> cheerleading and obvious avoidance of any discussion of the many faults of
> Apple and your iSteve.
>
> 1. This is an NG about Apple. Not Sony, not Dell, Apple.

This news group is NOT about child labor or the ethical behavior of any
company. It's about Mac System issues. You are off topic. Period.

> 2. Most of us here are users of Apple's products, at least one. Not Sony,
> not Dell, APPLE.

Inconsequential.

> 3. Yes, I do hold your iSteve to a higher standard. I expect better of him
> than I do of the CEO's of Sony or Dell.

And yet you ignore the fact that Apple actually does better in this area
than virtually every other company in the field. Amazing.

> He gets up on that platform after
> showing the demo tape for Face Time with the touching seen of the deaf
> mother, child and soldier, and he says something about this what is it's
> "really about". How touching. Then he is whisked away in a chauffered
> limosine to one of his mansions or penthouses to count his $40+Bn in gold,
> while the workers in China slave away into the night in deplorable
> conditions for $1 and hour to make him yet richer. Has he offered to build
> them a hospital, if they need one? A school or child care center for their
> kids? How about setting up some kind of trust fund for those workers to
> distribute a decent sized sum of cash to benefit them in what ever way
> would help them the most? How about a PAY INCREASE which would probably up
> his cost for an iPhone by $10 or less, so they can have a life?

You are talking out of pure ignorance, and it's showing.

> Your iSteve is a hypocrite, more so than the CEO's of those other
> countries, because he gets up in public and pretends to care. And yes, I
> deplore a hypocrite more than just a greedy person.

And you're flat out wrong about this. Apple does more than most.

And you seem to only care about laborers who are linked to Apple, so YOU
are the hypocrite here. Why aren't you complaining about the laborers
who made the clothes on your back?

> So now you and your minions are going to tell me I shouldn't buy an iPhone.
> Right, like that will change anything. Maybe that makes me a hypocrite too.
> But at least I'm willing to say that the King has no clothes, not praise
> him to the skies like he's some kind of God. He is what he is, and he ain't
> no saint, and I get tired of people like you trying to put the blame on
> people you don't care about to preserve the image of your false God that
> you need to hide your own hypocrisy.

....says the idiot running around on a all-nude beach pointing at the
life guard and screaming "HE HAS NO CLOTHES ON!!!"...

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From: salgud on 15 Jun 2010 15:11
On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:12:10 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote:

> Apple has ben proactively sending representatives to
> audit their suppliers for *years*. Most companies don't even bother to
> perform audits! Apple's suppliers are on record saying that Apple is
> virtually the only company who performs such thorough audits!

Well, pardon me, I apologize. If Apple does "audits" on their suppliers,
then everything is hunky-dory. I can just here those Chinese workers now,
"God, I was so tired from working 100 hrs a week, but now that Apple has
done an audit, I'm not even the least bit tired anymore!" Or, "Oh, I was so
worried about how I could afford to retire, but now that Apple has audited
us, no problem!"

Yes, audits are the answer, problem solved!
From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jun 2010 15:53
In article <1bzsaszafzxdr$.1xa40pn3pdee.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
salgud <spamboy6547(a)comcast.net> wrote:

> On Tue, 15 Jun 2010 10:12:10 -0500, Jolly Roger wrote:
>
> > Apple has ben proactively sending representatives to
> > audit their suppliers for *years*. Most companies don't even bother to
> > perform audits! Apple's suppliers are on record saying that Apple is
> > virtually the only company who performs such thorough audits!
>
> Well, pardon me, I apologize. If Apple does "audits" on their suppliers,
> then everything is hunky-dory. I can just here those Chinese workers now,
> "God, I was so tired from working 100 hrs a week, but now that Apple has
> done an audit, I'm not even the least bit tired anymore!" Or, "Oh, I was so
> worried about how I could afford to retire, but now that Apple has audited
> us, no problem!"
>
> Yes, audits are the answer, problem solved!

Everyone here can plainly see you're a hypocrite. Good job.

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From: Jolly Roger on 15 Jun 2010 19:28
In article <michelle-355810.16133415062010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <6fh4zqenp5es$.pwrvufw3ezhs.dlg(a)40tude.net>,
> salgud <spamboy6547(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
> > Not sad at all. Mostly, I'm a very happy person.
>
> I'm sure that you are, but if you had any sense of shame or decency, you
> wouldn't.

I don't think he is actually very happy. Otherwise he wouldn't fixate on
things like this and act the way he does.

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