From: Ian Gregory on
On 2010-06-05, John <jwolf6589(a)NOSPAMgmail.com> wrote:

[Regarding iPhone vs. BlackBerry]

> What are the pro's and cons of each device?

For a Mac user I would have thought the dominant factor would be the
compatibility between the iPhone and the Mac. Because I only own a
single computer and it is an iMac, and I never run Windows on it, then
if I were in the market for a smartphone I would probably not bother
considering anything other than an iPhone. Yes there some great
smartphones out there, and some of them may well be better than an
iPhone in some ways, but given that there are plenty of satisfied iPhone
users who wouldn't be seen dead using a Mac (I know some of them), I
think once you take into account the compatibility issue it is a
no-brainer (unless there are issues related to the network operators
available where you intend to use the iPhone).

Ian

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 06-05-2010 18:00, Ian Gregory wrote:
> users who wouldn't be seen dead using a Mac (I know some of them), I

When I'm dead, I won't be seen using a Mac, either.

--
Wes Groleau

People would have more leisure time if it weren't
for all the leisure-time activities that use it up.
-- Peg Bracken
From: dorayme on
In article <huelkb$vbf$2(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 06-05-2010 18:00, Ian Gregory wrote:
> > users who wouldn't be seen dead using a Mac (I know some of them), I
>
> When I'm dead, I won't be seen using a Mac, either.

Talking death and iPhones, I understand that the young factory
slaves in China where they are made, are jumping off stairs and
building in suicide acts because of the the cruel, demeaning
soul-destroying nature of their work and conditions. I don't know
if any less folk die making Blackberrys?

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dorayme
From: Glen Labah on
In article <michelle-92F335.19562205062010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:

> In article <dorayme-2AE74B.12052806062010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
>
> > Talking death and iPhones, I understand that the young factory slaves in
> > China where they are made, are jumping off stairs and building in
> > suicide acts because of the the cruel, demeaning soul-destroying nature
> > of their work and conditions. I don't know if any less folk die making
> > Blackberrys?
>
> That factory makes products for Apple, HP, Dell, and other companies as
> well.


Sony is one of the largest of those "other" companies.

This whole thing has been in the news for quite some time now. For
example, see:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10151626.stm

There were 9 suicides at the plant this year, and it employs some
420,000 people.

If you were to take the suicide rate among 420,000 workers anywhere else
in the world, what sort of suicide rate would you come up with?

I'm not saying it is a good thing, but at the same time 9 deaths out of
a company employing 420,000 people isn't necessarily worse than most.

We had three suicides during one year when I was at university, and that
would make our suicide rate several times that of this plant, just
because our university population was quite a bit smaller.

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From: dorayme on
In article
<gl4317-FF709E.22401405062010(a)mx01.eternal-september.org>,
Glen Labah <gl4317(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> In article <michelle-92F335.19562205062010(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
> Michelle Steiner <michelle(a)michelle.org> wrote:
>
> > In article <dorayme-2AE74B.12052806062010(a)news.albasani.net>,
> > dorayme <dorayme(a)optusnet.com.au> wrote:
> >
> > > Talking death and iPhones, I understand that the young factory slaves in
> > > China where they are made, are jumping off stairs and building in
> > > suicide acts because of the the cruel, demeaning soul-destroying nature
> > > of their work and conditions. I don't know if any less folk die making
> > > Blackberrys?
> >
> > That factory makes products for Apple, HP, Dell, and other companies as
> > well.
>
>
> Sony is one of the largest of those "other" companies.
>
> This whole thing has been in the news for quite some time now. For
> example, see:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/asia_pacific/10151626.stm
>
> There were 9 suicides at the plant this year, and it employs some
> 420,000 people.
>
> If you were to take the suicide rate among 420,000 workers anywhere else
> in the world, what sort of suicide rate would you come up with?
>
> I'm not saying it is a good thing, but at the same time 9 deaths out of
> a company employing 420,000 people isn't necessarily worse than most.

True, but we would need to account for that

"...the company has admitted it stopped a further 30 people
trying to throw themselves off high buildings in a three-week
period earlier this year." [from the url you quote]

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