From: Grant on 20 Jul 2010 00:03 On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC), Sylvain Robitaille <syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca> wrote: >Grant wrote: > >> Reminds me of another old argument about extracting kernel tarball as >> root, odd things may happen... > >In nearly 15 years of using, and working with Linux, and building custom >kernels quite frequently during those years, I've never encountered any >such problem, and I've always unpacked the kernel source tree as root. That's okay, some do, some don't -- I think the issue matters more if you're running multiple trees and/or patching the kernel? Dunno, I changed over to building/patching kernels as user years ago and have no problems either. A non-issue for most, unless they get into trouble. > >> Slackware's known default root environment is not hard to comply with, >> and then it's up to the operator to be aware of what they're doing >> when building packages in non-default environment. > >True enough, but what's proposed is a simple change that can make >scripts less prone to unintentional behaviour in unknown environments. >Wouldn't you want your own scripts to be robust? What if you published >scripts for public distribution, to be used in unknown environments? I agree with your proposal for SBo scripts, since they're addons, accessories for Slackware. Slackware packages assume a default environment, okay since that environment was setup during install -- perhaps this issue is one reason slackware recommend a full install these days? It's fast, space is cheap. I get used to turning off pcmcia support for a desktop, 'spose that's quicker than cherry picking which packages going in. I've not yet found the patience to build my own custom install whatsits, the list of files that go in without asking? SBo will either add your mods, or better document the traps for non- thinking users ;) Maybe do both? Up to them, they do a great job and would have an idea how well their stuff is received by numbers of downloads and contributions. Grant.
From: Loki Harfagr on 20 Jul 2010 02:37 Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:19 +0200, Dario Niedermann did cat : > I'm staying with Slackware because I can hack it to my own taste. yes, we all could read that, it was funny, at least for the first few hundred posts...
From: Eef Hartman on 20 Jul 2010 09:43 Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote: > I've not yet found the patience to build my own custom install > whatsits, the list of files that go in without asking? Look at the file "tagfile" in each directory with a "set of packages" (like a, ap, etc.). Each package is listed there with one of 4 qualifications: ADD install without asking REC ask, default is yes (recommended) OPT ask, default is no (optional) SKP do NOT ask nor install (this isn't normally there, but you can use it for automatic install's to skip packages) So you can create your own mirror of the install tree and adjust the tagfile's in all dirs to "your own requirements". -- ****************************************************************** ** Eef Hartman, Delft University of Technology, dept. SSC/ICT ** ** e-mail: E.J.M.Hartman(a)tudelft.nl - phone: +31-15-27 82525 ** ******************************************************************
From: Mark on 20 Jul 2010 10:38 On Jul 19, 11:59 pm, Dario Niedermann <M8R-cth...(a)spamherelots.com> wrote: > Switching distro as soon as you don't like some implementation detail is > for wannabes. I'm staying with Slackware because I can hack it to my own > taste. > Hello Dario. Slackware is an obsolete distribution, maintained by amateurs, good for pensioners, teenagers and low-rent individuals who can't get a job. If you want a distro with proper bug reporting switch to Ubuntu. Mark
From: jr4412 on 20 Jul 2010 13:38
On 20 July, 15:38, Mark <orchestratedfla...(a)markshuttleworth.com> wrote: > On Jul 19, 11:59 pm, Dario Niedermann <M8R-cth...(a)spamherelots.com> > wrote: > > > > > Switching distro as soon as you don't like some implementation > detail is > > for wannabes. I'm staying with Slackware because I can hack it to my > own > > taste. > > Hello Dario. Slackware is an obsolete distribution, maintained by > amateurs, good for pensioners, teenagers and low-rent individuals who > can't get a job. If you want a distro with proper bug reporting switch > to Ubuntu. > > Mark thank you 'Mark', for the laugh. |