From: Grant on
On Tue, 20 Jul 2010 03:12:32 +0000 (UTC), Sylvain Robitaille <syl(a)alcor.concordia.ca> wrote:

>Grant wrote:
>
>> Reminds me of another old argument about extracting kernel tarball as
>> root, odd things may happen...
>
>In nearly 15 years of using, and working with Linux, and building custom
>kernels quite frequently during those years, I've never encountered any
>such problem, and I've always unpacked the kernel source tree as root.

That's okay, some do, some don't -- I think the issue matters more if
you're running multiple trees and/or patching the kernel? Dunno, I
changed over to building/patching kernels as user years ago and have
no problems either. A non-issue for most, unless they get into trouble.
>
>> Slackware's known default root environment is not hard to comply with,
>> and then it's up to the operator to be aware of what they're doing
>> when building packages in non-default environment.
>
>True enough, but what's proposed is a simple change that can make
>scripts less prone to unintentional behaviour in unknown environments.
>Wouldn't you want your own scripts to be robust? What if you published
>scripts for public distribution, to be used in unknown environments?

I agree with your proposal for SBo scripts, since they're addons,
accessories for Slackware.

Slackware packages assume a default environment, okay since that
environment was setup during install -- perhaps this issue is one
reason slackware recommend a full install these days?

It's fast, space is cheap.

I get used to turning off pcmcia support for a desktop, 'spose that's
quicker than cherry picking which packages going in.

I've not yet found the patience to build my own custom install
whatsits, the list of files that go in without asking?

SBo will either add your mods, or better document the traps for non-
thinking users ;) Maybe do both? Up to them, they do a great job
and would have an idea how well their stuff is received by numbers
of downloads and contributions.

Grant.

From: Loki Harfagr on
Tue, 20 Jul 2010 00:59:19 +0200, Dario Niedermann did cat :

> I'm staying with Slackware because I can hack it to my own taste.

yes, we all could read that, it was funny, at least for the
first few hundred posts...
From: Eef Hartman on
Grant <omg(a)grrr.id.au> wrote:
> I've not yet found the patience to build my own custom install
> whatsits, the list of files that go in without asking?

Look at the file "tagfile" in each directory with a "set of packages"
(like a, ap, etc.).
Each package is listed there with one of 4 qualifications:
ADD install without asking
REC ask, default is yes (recommended)
OPT ask, default is no (optional)
SKP do NOT ask nor install (this isn't normally there, but you can
use it for automatic install's to skip packages)

So you can create your own mirror of the install tree and adjust
the tagfile's in all dirs to "your own requirements".
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From: Mark on
On Jul 19, 11:59 pm, Dario Niedermann <M8R-cth...(a)spamherelots.com>
wrote:

> Switching distro as soon as you don't like some implementation
detail is
> for wannabes. I'm staying with Slackware because I can hack it to my
own
> taste.
>


Hello Dario. Slackware is an obsolete distribution, maintained by
amateurs, good for pensioners, teenagers and low-rent individuals who
can't get a job. If you want a distro with proper bug reporting switch
to Ubuntu.

Mark


From: jr4412 on
On 20 July, 15:38, Mark <orchestratedfla...(a)markshuttleworth.com>
wrote:
> On Jul 19, 11:59 pm, Dario Niedermann <M8R-cth...(a)spamherelots.com>
> wrote:
>
>
>
> > Switching distro as soon as you don't like some implementation
> detail is
> > for wannabes. I'm staying with Slackware because I can hack it to my
> own
> > taste.
>
> Hello Dario. Slackware is an obsolete distribution, maintained by
> amateurs, good for pensioners, teenagers and low-rent individuals who
> can't get a job. If you want a distro with proper bug reporting switch
> to Ubuntu.
>
> Mark

thank you 'Mark', for the laugh.