From: Mike Jones on
Responding to Dario Niedermann:

> Helmut Hullen <Helmut(a)Hullen.de> wrote:
>
>> Rubbish. When you install software you change the system.
>
> Yeah, and if you use installpkg you'll change it more than you expect.


Apparently only true for you and people who mess with root's umask.

The rest is just "in theory" and not a matter of record.

IOW, not a "bug", just a personal "working practice" preference.

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From: Helmut Hullen on
Hallo, Dario,

Du meintest am 16.07.10:

>> Rubbish. When you install software you change the system.

> Yeah, and if you use installpkg you'll change it more than you
> expect.

That's wrong. I know what "installpkg" does.

Viele Gruesse
Helmut

"Ubuntu" - an African word, meaning "Slackware is too hard for me".

From: Dan C on
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 20:08:29 +0000, Mike Jones wrote:

> Responding to Dario Niedermann:
>
>> Helmut Hullen <Helmut(a)Hullen.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Rubbish. When you install software you change the system.
>>
>> Yeah, and if you use installpkg you'll change it more than you expect.
>
>
> Apparently only true for you and people who mess with root's umask.
>
> The rest is just "in theory" and not a matter of record.
>
> IOW, not a "bug", just a personal "working practice" preference.

Will you people *please* stop feeding this troll?

It's probably becoming a near record-setting thread (length), which is
what trolls set out to accomplish. You are helping it.

It's almost become ANC'ish. Is it possible....? Nah...


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From: Dario Niedermann on
Helmut Hullen <Helmut(a)Hullen.de> wrote:

> That's wrong. I know what "installpkg" does.

Great, good luck then.

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From: Res on
On Fri, 16 Jul 2010 17:40:21 +0200, Dario Niedermann wrote:

> Jim Diamond <Jim.Diamond(a)deletehis.AcadiaU.ca> wrote:
>
>> And it could also fix software that isn't working correctly.
>
> And it could also break software that is working correctly...
>
>> I think you need to wrap your mind around the fact that just because
>> *you* think "installpkg" is the place to catch (alleged) errors in
>> packages, that is just one opinion of where the error checking should
>> occur.
>
> Whether you like it or not, installpkg *is* the *last* link where a
> flawed package - and that of course means flawed _unbeknownst_ to you -
> can be prevented from causing damage. If you don't stop it at the
> installer's level, you don't stop it at all.
>
>> There are examples of situations in which the current behaviour of
>> installpkg is a good thing
>
> They are exceptional/rare situations where the current, unsafe behaviour
> could be invoked as an option.


*yaaaaawwwwnnnnnn*

why are ppl feeding this troll still? sounds like ANC all over again