From: Tom Anderson on
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, Lew wrote:

> Arved Sandstrom wrote:
>
>> Come to think of it, "ln" is another good one - I've almost always heard it
>> pronounced "lon" or "lawn". If someone says "el en" then they very likely
>> have no idea what it means.
>>
>> For "cos" not many folks I know, including myself, have the patience to
>> always say "cosine", but "koss" doesn't sound quite right either, so we end
>> up with "kose". But I guess some folks say "koss"; I won't say it's odd.
>
> There is no standard. Just like some pronounce the type "char" as in the
> verb "to char" and others as the first syllable in "character". (I'm in the
> latter camp.)

Hang on, including the r or not?

tom

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From: Tom Anderson on
On Sat, 13 Mar 2010, BGB / cr88192 wrote:

> "Arved Sandstrom" <dcest61(a)hotmail.com> wrote in message
> news:MfOmn.70902$PH1.34922(a)edtnps82...
>
>> Come to think of it, "ln" is another good one - I've almost always
>> heard it pronounced "lon" or "lawn". If someone says "el en" then they
>> very likely have no idea what it means.
>
> I don't think it follows.
> it is common practice to say things like this as the letters that make them
> up:
> "ls" => "ElEs"
> "rd" => "Ardi"
> "mk" => "EmkeI"
> ...
>
> "ln" would just follow in this line.

Hmm. For me "lun" (although the vowel is a schwa, rather than a u) is the
natural logarithm function, and "ell en" is the command that makes links
in the filesystem. Why? Dunno.

While ls is "ell ess", but anything starting mk is "Mc", like it was
Scottish; McDurr makes directories, MkNodd makes nodes, MkPheepho makes
named pipes, etc.

>> For "cos" not many folks I know, including myself, have the patience to
>> always say "cosine", but "koss" doesn't sound quite right either, so we
>> end up with "kose". But I guess some folks say "koss"; I won't say it's
>> odd.
>
> I wrote /kos/, which would use the 'o' sound from "no" or "close" (so, more
> like your "kose", although to me this word would be more like /koz/ or
> /koUz/).

For me, sin is pronounced as the word, tan is pronounced as the word, and
cos is pronounced as my local dialect's form of 'because'. I've never had
to pronounce the hyperbolic forms.

Mind you, this is all British english, and so not what Stefan was asking
about.

tom

--
That's the problem with google. You can usually find what you're looking
for with a fairly simple search. It's knowing *which* fairly simple
search out of the millions of possible fairly simple searches you need
to use to find it ;-) -- Paul D
From: Lew on
Tom Anderson wrote:
> For me, sin is pronounced as the word, tan is pronounced as the word,
> and cos is pronounced as my local dialect's form of 'because'. I've
> never had to pronounce the hyperbolic forms.

I was taught in an algebra class of some kind in the U.S. to say

function pronunciation
-------- -------------
sinh sinch (sounds like "cinch")
cosh cosh (like "cosh" meaning "bludgeon")
tanh tanch (rhymes with "ranch")

<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/sinh>
<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/cosh>
<http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/tanh>

--
Lew
From: Lew on
Lew wrote:
>> There is no standard. Just like some pronounce the type "char" as in
>> the verb "to char" and others as the first syllable in "character".
>> (I'm in the latter camp.)

Tom Anderson wrote:
> Hang on, including the r or not?

Varies with speaker's dialect.

--
Lew
From: BGB / cr88192 on

"Lew" <noone(a)lewscanon.com> wrote in message
news:hnhf2q$96h$2(a)news.albasani.net...
> Lew wrote:
>>> There is no standard. Just like some pronounce the type "char" as in
>>> the verb "to char" and others as the first syllable in "character".
>>> (I'm in the latter camp.)
>
> Tom Anderson wrote:
>> Hang on, including the r or not?
>
> Varies with speaker's dialect.
>

yep, along with "the", the "-ing" suffix, ...

as for me:
r is pronounced (including in final position);
"the" is pronounced like /DV/ (not /Di/ or /da/ as some others do);
"-ing" is /iN/ (like in "sing" or "king"), whereas many others seem to use
/In/ or /En/.
....


for example, people from more eastern-US places often drop the final 'r'
sound (like in RP and similar);
similarly, people from places like California, ... seem to mess up '-ing'
(often using '/En/' instead, saying "rock'en" rather than "rock'king").

(actually, I suspect people from there seem to have a problem with saying
the "ng" sound in general, and so it is often shifted to "n"...).

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Velar_nasal


where I am currently at (AZ), I have noted a lot of minor things, but
haven't really classified them all.

....