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From: Joe on 15 Dec 2009 03:01 Aaron W. Hsu wrote on 12/14/09 19:23: > barnabyh <invalid(a)address.org> writes: > >> I may get away just with slrn, will see, but having a local server would >> probably be better as it would free me up to use different clients. > > What sort of filtering do you need? Leafnode works fine for filtering idiots like rm.
From: Sidney Lambe on 15 Dec 2009 03:11 On alt.os.linux.slackware, Robert Komar <robk(a)robpc4.home.org> wrote: > Sidney Lambe <sidneylambe(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > > ... > >> You only need leafnode if you are going to be pulling from >> different servers and want one newspool. > > Or, if you want a longer expiration time on articles than > your newspool provides. That doesn't make any sense unless you mean server instead of newspool. And I was comparing slrnpull to leafnode, both of which allow one to expire articles whenenever one wants them expired. > Actually, in my case, I started up on dial-up, and didn't > want to be off the hook while reading the news. leafnode > would suck in the articles in a minute or two, and I > could spend much longer than that reading from the > local news server. Nowadays, I have broadband, but I > like having a guaranteed expiration date on my groups > of interest since my reading comes in well-spaced bursts. > > It took some effort to get leafnode configured way back > then, but it has paid off in spades since. > > Cheers, > Rob Komar Slrnpull is much easier to configure and maintain than leafnode, and unless you are getting articles from multiple servers and want them all in one newspool there's no point in using leafnode. Slrnpull's scoring is quite superior to leafnodes as well. Sid
From: Barnabyh on 15 Dec 2009 08:15 * Aaron W Hsu <arcfide(a)sacrideo.us> wrote: > barnabyh wrote: > >>Didn't get tin to work with this particular server, I think it's because >>it does not support snews. > > Could you explain a little more about Snews? Some clients may not > support it natively, but it may be possible to tunnel it. If it is like > SSL Usenet, then I know that you can tunnel it. I use Giganews, which > offers SSL usenet, and I use NN with it via stunnel. > > Aaron W. Hsu Sorry about the confusion, I meant snews: as a protocol, which is just news access via SSL. Barnabyh -- The general public is a bunch of morons who destroy the fun and life in everything it collectively touches. Disney is what the public wants. NASCAR is what the public wants. Windows is what the public wants. (Comment on Slashdot, Monday March 28 2005, @11:02AM, Gnome Removed From Slackware.)
From: Barnabyh on 15 Dec 2009 09:08 * Barnabyh <invalid(a)address.org> wrote: > What would be a good local news server to run at home, apart from > leafnode? Years ago around 2001 or so I ran hamster on Windows, > something similar would be sweet. > Thanks for all your responses. I'm only reading two groups, one of which has had no postings for around two months (but I expect that to pick up again once a new game in the series has been released). AFAICS there are four possible solutions: 1.) Leafnode- this would probably come closest to the local news server setup I once had on Windows, but may need more configuration than no.2. This solution would also be the most independent one from any reader. 2.) slrn & slrnpull- spool can also be read from any other reader, not necessarily slrn only? 3.) stunnel- provides for SSL and would broaden the choices as to what reader to use as also the plain non-SSL capable ones could be used. 4.) NN and Nmaster - Don't know much about this at the moment, have to read up more. So far I'm using slrn/pull quite successfully since yesterday and rather like it, it only took a few hours to read up and configure and test. Slrn had a bit of an advantage as I had already looked into it about two years ago and still had a set of bookmarks around to read up on stuff. I think for this medium text based user interface is perfectly adequate. It will also force me to train up on those vi skills a bit :)) That's a good thing. Leafnode seems almost overkill at the moment for my small needs. Stunnel and nn look good too and I'll try it when time allows, if only for the learning experience. Tunneling could also come in handy when travelling with the laptop, so I'm looking forward to setting things up. NN, as I said, I'll be reading more about it later this evening. I got Aaron's fixed package (thanks for that) from the link provided in an earlier post here in a.o.l.s. Have set up a few filters on cross-posting and on the recent spammers to this group here specifically. This seems to work well as I did get one today in Thunderbird, which I use to check the effectiveness of the filters, but not in slrn. Hurrah. To be fair to Thunderbird, it also seems to filter/delete new posts, but does not do so retrospectively, meaning it does not and cannot remove already received messages from the news reader (works in mail for junk but not for news, see https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16913 ). Later- Barnabyh -- The general public is a bunch of morons who destroy the fun and life in everything it collectively touches. Disney is what the public wants. NASCAR is what the public wants. Windows is what the public wants. (Comment on Slashdot, Monday March 28 2005, @11:02AM, Gnome Removed From Slackware.)
From: Keith Keller on 15 Dec 2009 13:50
On 2009-12-15, Barnabyh <barnabyh(a)fakingit.org> wrote: > > 1.) Leafnode- this would probably come closest to the local news server > setup I once had on Windows, but may need more configuration than no.2. I've not used slrnpull, but leafnode's configuration is actually quite easy. The one potential disadvantage is that clients connect over nntp, not through the filesystem; from what I gather slrnpull/slrn lets slrn read the spool via the filesystem. (That's probably not a huge problem, but I thought I'd mention it.) slrn can handle this easily, of course. > Leafnode seems almost overkill at the moment for my small needs. In what way? It's actually quite small and simple. --keith -- kkeller-usenet(a)wombat.san-francisco.ca.us (try just my userid to email me) AOLSFAQ=http://www.therockgarden.ca/aolsfaq.txt see X- headers for PGP signature information |