From: Handover Phist on
Stew Sphincter :
> Joe <joe(a)mailinator.com> trolled:
>> Aaron W. Hsu wrote on 12/14/09 19:23:
>>
>>> barnabyh <invalid(a)address.org> writes:
>>>
>>>> I may get away just with slrn, will see, but having a local server would
>>>> probably be better as it would free me up to use different clients.
>>>
>>> What sort of filtering do you need?
>>
>> Leafnode works fine for filtering idiots like rm.
>
> Apparently not. But you're free to pretend it does while you get
> back to the drawing board.
>
> cordially, as never,
>
> rm

Well, at least it makes him have to make an effort to get around the
filters.

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From: Lew Pitcher on
On December 17, 2009 01:15, in alt.os.linux.slackware,
jason(a)jason.websterscafe.com wrote:

> Stew Sphincter :
>> Joe <joe(a)mailinator.com> trolled:
>>> Aaron W. Hsu wrote on 12/14/09 19:23:
>>>
>>>> barnabyh <invalid(a)address.org> writes:
>>>>
>>>>> I may get away just with slrn, will see, but having a local server
>>>>> would probably be better as it would free me up to use different
>>>>> clients.
>>>>
>>>> What sort of filtering do you need?
>>>
>>> Leafnode works fine for filtering idiots like rm.
>>
>> Apparently not. But you're free to pretend it does while you get
>> back to the drawing board.
>>
>> cordially, as never,
>>
>> rm
>
> Well, at least it makes him have to make an effort to get around the
> filters.

Filtering RM is pretty easy. I'm sure that Leafnode's filter is up to it.

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Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
Me: http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | Just Linux: http://justlinux.ca/
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------


From: Loki Harfagr on
Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:00:40 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :

> On December 17, 2009 01:15, in alt.os.linux.slackware,
> jason(a)jason.websterscafe.com wrote:
>
>> Stew Sphincter :
>>> Joe <joe(a)mailinator.com> trolled:
>>>> Aaron W. Hsu wrote on 12/14/09 19:23:
>>>>
>>>>> barnabyh <invalid(a)address.org> writes:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I may get away just with slrn, will see, but having a local server
>>>>>> would probably be better as it would free me up to use different
>>>>>> clients.
>>>>>
>>>>> What sort of filtering do you need?
>>>>
>>>> Leafnode works fine for filtering idiots like rm.
>>>
>>> Apparently not. But you're free to pretend it does while you get back
>>> to the drawing board.
>>>
>>> cordially, as never,
>>>
>>> rm
>>
>> Well, at least it makes him have to make an effort to get around the
>> filters.
>
> Filtering RM is pretty easy. I'm sure that Leafnode's filter is up to
> it.

but why would you filter him? He finally decided to make his
coming out and though he's still quite clumsy at it, and may even
paradoxically sound like one of these poor souls of shameful bis
who always lived in an environment full of stupid homophobic morons
(seems a lot of people played possum for their biology classes),
I wouldn't discourage such a hard decision!
From: Lew Pitcher on
On December 17, 2009 12:18, in alt.os.linux.slackware,
l0k1(a)thedarkdesign.free.fr.INVALID wrote:

> Thu, 17 Dec 2009 12:00:40 -0500, Lew Pitcher did cat :
>
>> On December 17, 2009 01:15, in alt.os.linux.slackware,
>> jason(a)jason.websterscafe.com wrote:
>>
>>> Stew Sphincter :
>>>> Joe <joe(a)mailinator.com> trolled:
>>>>> Aaron W. Hsu wrote on 12/14/09 19:23:
>>>>>
>>>>>> barnabyh <invalid(a)address.org> writes:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I may get away just with slrn, will see, but having a local server
>>>>>>> would probably be better as it would free me up to use different
>>>>>>> clients.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What sort of filtering do you need?
>>>>>
>>>>> Leafnode works fine for filtering idiots like rm.
>>>>
>>>> Apparently not. But you're free to pretend it does while you get back
>>>> to the drawing board.
>>>>
>>>> cordially, as never,
>>>>
>>>> rm
>>>
>>> Well, at least it makes him have to make an effort to get around the
>>> filters.
>>
>> Filtering RM is pretty easy. I'm sure that Leafnode's filter is up to
>> it.
>
> but why would you filter him? He finally decided to make his
> coming out and though he's still quite clumsy at it, and may even
> paradoxically sound like one of these poor souls of shameful bis
> who always lived in an environment full of stupid homophobic morons
> (seems a lot of people played possum for their biology classes),
> I wouldn't discourage such a hard decision!

I filter him mostly to improve the signal_to_noise ratio on usenet. His
recent angst at his sexuality and his negligence and fallability are none
of my business, and only contribute to the 'noise'.

Very rarely, he'll have something useful to say. But, bye and large, he
really doesn't add anything helpful to any conversation.

His sexuality problems are better discussed in a newsgroup dedicated to such
matters; alt.os.linux.slackware is not the forum for that. Certainly, he
should seek counseling from a trained professional. I'm sure the Brantford
Yellow Pages can supply him with a suitable recommendation.

His negligence as the custodian of an interned domain again are not subject
matter for alt.os.linux.slackware. Again, this sort of thing is probably
best discussed with an external trained professional, someone versed in the
legal and moral issues, like a lawyer or priest.

And, of course, his fallability (such as leaving his home address and phone
number exposed on a whois query (now archived, and available on some
websites), or posting that information to other fora that Google has
archived) is his business. He probably should take time to consider how he
has done himself harm, and (perhaps) take a self-improvement course or two.

In any case, none of his problems are subject matter that should be (or even
needs to be) discussed in alt.os.linux.slackware

And, now, back to our topic ;-)
--
Lew Pitcher
Master Codewright & JOAT-in-training | Registered Linux User #112576
Me: http://pitcher.digitalfreehold.ca/ | Just Linux: http://justlinux.ca/
---------- Slackware - Because I know what I'm doing. ------


From: buck on
Barnabyh <barnabyh(a)fakingit.org> wrote in
news:hg858s$e65$1(a)news.eternal-september.org:

> * Barnabyh <invalid(a)address.org> wrote:
>> What would be a good local news server to run at home, apart from
>> leafnode? Years ago around 2001 or so I ran hamster on Windows,
>> something similar would be sweet.
>>
>
> Thanks for all your responses. I'm only reading two groups, one of
> which has had no postings for around two months (but I expect that
to
> pick up again once a new game in the series has been released).
>
> AFAICS there are four possible solutions:
> 1.) Leafnode- this would probably come closest to the local news
> server setup I once had on Windows, but may need more configuration
> than no.2. This solution would also be the most independent one from
> any reader.
>
> 2.) slrn & slrnpull- spool can also be read from any other reader,
not
> necessarily slrn only?
>
> 3.) stunnel- provides for SSL and would broaden the choices as to
what
> reader to use as also the plain non-SSL capable ones could be used.
>
> 4.) NN and Nmaster - Don't know much about this at the moment, have
to
> read up more.
>
> So far I'm using slrn/pull quite successfully since yesterday and
> rather like it, it only took a few hours to read up and configure
and
> test. Slrn had a bit of an advantage as I had already looked into it
> about two years ago and still had a set of bookmarks around to read
up
> on stuff. I think for this medium text based user interface is
> perfectly adequate. It will also force me to train up on those vi
> skills a bit :)) That's a good thing.
>
> Leafnode seems almost overkill at the moment for my small needs.
>
> Stunnel and nn look good too and I'll try it when time allows, if
only
> for the learning experience. Tunneling could also come in handy when
> travelling with the laptop, so I'm looking forward to setting things
> up.
>
> NN, as I said, I'll be reading more about it later this evening. I
got
> Aaron's fixed package (thanks for that) from the link provided in an
> earlier post here in a.o.l.s.
>
> Have set up a few filters on cross-posting and on the recent
spammers
> to this group here specifically. This seems to work well as I did
get
> one today in Thunderbird, which I use to check the effectiveness of
> the filters, but not in slrn. Hurrah.
>
> To be fair to Thunderbird, it also seems to filter/delete new posts,
> but does not do so retrospectively, meaning it does not and cannot
> remove already received messages from the news reader (works in mail
> for junk but not for news, see
> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=16913 ).
>
> Later-
>
> Barnabyh

There is one other possibility that nobody has yet mentioned: Small
News

You'll find it if you google sn_0.3.8-9.1

SN uses config.h to determine the port, but most likely you'll also
need stunnel in order to connect securely,
--
buck
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