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From: Sidney Lambe on 19 Apr 2010 21:42 On comp.os.linux.networking, David Schwartz <davids(a)webmaster.com> wrote: > On Apr 19, 5:26=A0pm, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> >> And if rdate -p 127.0.0.1 fails that there is a problem? > >> > It would be surprising if it succeeded since most Linux boxes >> > stopped supporting that protocol around the same time they >> > stopped running 'inetd' by default. > >> You are mistaken. It comes with the latest Debian, for starters: >> >> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/rdate >> >> (This will work just fine on any distro. Is a simple utility >> needing only the basic libs to function.) > > Even if you have 'rdate', 'rdate -p 127.0.0.1' will fail if you're not > running the 'rdate' server. > When most distributions stopped enabling > 'inetd' by default, they generally also stopped providing 'rdate' > service by default. This applies whether or not you have a client or > server installed. > >> I have been using rdate, running from a cron job, for years, with >> no problem at all. > > You're getting sucky performance and risking a number of known > problems. > >> Why hassle with a complex app like NTP for such a simple >> task? > > Clock synchronization is not simple. It's very simple to do a mediocre > job of it though. > > DS Another fatheaded idiot telling me that something I have been doing successfully for years doesn't work. I have just given him the score that tells me that his technical advice is to be approached with caution. Sid
From: Sidney Lambe on 19 Apr 2010 22:13 On comp.os.linux.networking, David Schwartz <davids(a)webmaster.com> wrote: > On Apr 19, 5:26=A0pm, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > >> >> And if rdate -p 127.0.0.1 fails that there is a problem? > >> > It would be surprising if it succeeded since most Linux boxes >> > stopped supporting that protocol around the same time they >> > stopped running 'inetd' by default. > >> You are mistaken. It comes with the latest Debian, for starters: >> >> http://packages.debian.org/lenny/rdate >> >> (This will work just fine on any distro. Is a simple utility >> needing only the basic libs to function.) > > Even if you have 'rdate', 'rdate -p 127.0.0.1' will fail if you're not > running the 'rdate' server. When most distributions stopped enabling > 'inetd' by default, they generally also stopped providing 'rdate' > service by default. This applies whether or not you have a client or > server installed. I don't run a timeserver here. I set the gateway computer's clock using rdate and then use scripts calling date on the other boxes on the LAN to read and set their time from the gateway box. Now you are going to tell me that it doesn't work when it works perfectly well. Do you have a Schrader valve on your head to relieve the pressure when it gets too fat? You are a dumb sheep who does things the way others do it because you don't like to think for yourself. [delete] Sid
From: Joe Pfeiffer on 20 Apr 2010 19:31 Mart Frauenlob <mart.frauenlob(a)chello.at> writes: > On 20.04.2010 10:35, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >> Mart Frauenlob wrote: >> >>> On 20.04.2010 03:42, Sidney Lambe wrote: >>> [...] >>>> >>>> Another fatheaded idiot telling me that something I have been doing >>>> successfully for years doesn't work. >>>> >>>> I have just given him the score that tells me that his technical >>>> advice is to be approached with caution. >>>> >>>> Sid >>> >>> Why are you so auto-aggressive? >>> Why do you need to start flaming all the time? >> >> Simple: He is Alan Connor >> >> Easily one of the dumbest kooks on usenet of all time > > Well, that's just the negative projection in the reverse direction. > Don't judge one as an idiot for judging others as idiots. You'd do just > the same. That's moving around the hate. > Characters are not static, they can change. > Most likely this person didn't get enough love in hist life. > Calling him dumb cannot create a constructive reaction. While the description might have been more polite, it would be difficult to make it more accurate. And while it's certainly possible he might change (and we would all rejoice if he did), there's no evidence of it happening in the posts he's contributed to this thread. -- As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin)
From: Sidney Lambe on 20 Apr 2010 19:48 On comp.os.linux.networking, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: > Mart Frauenlob <mart.frauenlob(a)chello.at> writes: > >> On 20.04.2010 10:35, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>> Mart Frauenlob wrote: >>> >>>> On 20.04.2010 03:42, Sidney Lambe wrote: >>>> [...] >>>>> >>>>> Another fatheaded idiot telling me that something I have been doing >>>>> successfully for years doesn't work. >>>>> >>>>> I have just given him the score that tells me that his technical >>>>> advice is to be approached with caution. >>>>> >>>>> Sid >>>> >>>> Why are you so auto-aggressive? >>>> Why do you need to start flaming all the time? >>> >>> Simple: He is Alan Connor >>> >>> Easily one of the dumbest kooks on usenet of all time >> >> Well, that's just the negative projection in the reverse direction. >> Don't judge one as an idiot for judging others as idiots. You'd do just >> the same. That's moving around the hate. >> Characters are not static, they can change. >> Most likely this person didn't get enough love in hist life. >> Calling him dumb cannot create a constructive reaction. > > While the description might have been more polite, it would be difficult > to make it more accurate. And while it's certainly possible he might > change (and we would all rejoice if he did), there's no evidence of it > happening in the posts he's contributed to this thread. > -- > As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should > be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; > and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin) My killfile is feeding well on this thread. Another batch of dickless losers who get their little rocks off insulting people while they hide behind the Internet. Scum like this are a dime-a-dozen on the Usenet. Sid
From: Sidney Lambe on 20 Apr 2010 19:55
On comp.os.linux.networking, Sidney Lambe <sidneylambe(a)nospam.invalid> wrote: > On comp.os.linux.networking, Joe Pfeiffer <pfeiffer(a)cs.nmsu.edu> wrote: >> Mart Frauenlob <mart.frauenlob(a)chello.at> writes: >> >>> On 20.04.2010 10:35, Peter Köhlmann wrote: >>>> Mart Frauenlob wrote: >>>> >>>>> On 20.04.2010 03:42, Sidney Lambe wrote: >>>>> [...] >>>>>> >>>>>> Another fatheaded idiot telling me that something I have been doing >>>>>> successfully for years doesn't work. >>>>>> >>>>>> I have just given him the score that tells me that his technical >>>>>> advice is to be approached with caution. >>>>>> >>>>>> Sid >>>>> >>>>> Why are you so auto-aggressive? >>>>> Why do you need to start flaming all the time? >>>> >>>> Simple: He is Alan Connor >>>> >>>> Easily one of the dumbest kooks on usenet of all time >>> >>> Well, that's just the negative projection in the reverse direction. >>> Don't judge one as an idiot for judging others as idiots. You'd do just >>> the same. That's moving around the hate. >>> Characters are not static, they can change. >>> Most likely this person didn't get enough love in hist life. >>> Calling him dumb cannot create a constructive reaction. >> >> While the description might have been more polite, it would be difficult >> to make it more accurate. And while it's certainly possible he might >> change (and we would all rejoice if he did), there's no evidence of it >> happening in the posts he's contributed to this thread. >> -- >> As we enjoy great advantages from the inventions of others, we should >> be glad of an opportunity to serve others by any invention of ours; >> and this we should do freely and generously. (Benjamin Franklin) > > My killfile is feeding well on this thread. Another batch of > dickless losers who get their little rocks off insulting people > while they hide behind the Internet. > > Scum like this are a dime-a-dozen on the Usenet. And all 12 of those aliases usually belong to the same mentally creep. And the poor feeb thinks he's accomplishing something. > > Sid > > > |