From: David Schwartz on
On Apr 21, 2:08 am, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> From man rdate:
>
>  -n      Use SNTP (RFC 2030) instead of the RFC 868 time protocol..
>
> Open mouth, insert foot. And this is the second time (at least) this
> has been posted on this thread.

I know you're trolling, but for the benefit of everyone else, this is
a completely different 'rdate' than the one the OP (and everyone else
but Sidney Lambe) was talking about.

DS
From: Sidney Lambe on
On comp.os.linux.networking, David Schwartz <davids(a)webmaster.com> wrote:

[delete]

Think you are so smart, David?

On your system, using ntp, if the box running ntpd goes down you
are screwed. If ntpd goes down you are screwed.

On my system, all the boxes get their time independently with
rdate. It is decentralized. It is far more secure than yours.

No. I am not going to read your reply. I already know that
you are never wrong.

You and unruh. Boring fatheads.

Sid

From: David Schwartz on
On Apr 21, 6:52 pm, Sidney Lambe <sidneyla...(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:

> You and unruh. Boring fatheads.
>
> Sid

You're losing your touch. You were much funnier when you suggested an
email system that would solve everyone's spam problems. The system had
one minor flaw though-- a minor scaling problem. Specifically, it
wouldn't scale to more than one user.

DS
From: unruh on
On 2010-04-22, Sidney Lambe <sidneylambe(a)nospam.invalid> wrote:
> On comp.os.linux.networking, David Schwartz <davids(a)webmaster.com> wrote:
>
> [delete]
>
> Think you are so smart, David?
>
> On your system, using ntp, if the box running ntpd goes down you
> are screwed. If ntpd goes down you are screwed.

It would be really really nice if you knew even a little bit about ntp.
If ntp on his box goes down, the box keeps the correct time to seconds
per week or better for a long time. If ntp goes down on the server, then
the other servers he has back it up. ntp is far more decenterised than
rdate. On rdate if one box goes nuts, then when that box is queried,
your computer's time is set to that weird date/time. Then when the next
one is queried, the time jumps to whatever time it has, etc.

>
> On my system, all the boxes get their time independently with
> rdate. It is decentralized. It is far more secure than yours.

Far less decenteralised than ntp.

>
> No. I am not going to read your reply. I already know that
> you are never wrong.
>
> You and unruh. Boring fatheads.
>
> Sid
>
From: David Schwartz on
On Apr 26, 1:20 am, "goarilla(a)work" <kevindotpau...(a)mtmdotkuleuven.be>
wrote:

> with all do respect, i use openntpd on slackware and when my machine
> crashes or gets halted.
>
> it drifts a lot of seconds: 11
> then when i restart the machine it gets adjusted by openntpd
> with very small increments a lot of times untill it is synced again
> after an hour or two
>
> same happens when i lose network connection.

That's one of the many reasons not to use OpenNTPd.

http://web.archive.org/web/20050304032724/http://bradknowles.typepad.com/considered_harmful/2004/09/openntpd.html

DS
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