From: Joachim Pense on 1 Jul 2010 15:40 Am 01.07.2010 21:27, schrieb Malcolm: > On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:20:59 -0500 > Chris Cox <chrisncoxn(a)endlessnow.com> wrote: > >> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 11:05 -0800, Kevin Miller wrote: >>> 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was >>> talked about was having an version update process similar to >>> Debian's where one can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to >>> the next rather than having to do a fresh install. How is that >>> working out? Will it be ready for prime time or is a fresh install >>> still advised? >>> >> >> Debian's upgrade is NOT painless.. it all depends on what you have >> done to your system. With regards to openSUSE upgrades, I've been >> pretty pleased with the results when I've done upgrades. Again, I >> think it depends a lot on what you've done (esp. with the non std >> repos), so perhaps I was just lucky. >> >> > Hi > Yes, if you've added third party, OBS repositories you would need to > ensure they are all built and up to date with respect to 11.3 before > using zypper dup. Would 3rd party already include VLC? Joachim
From: Malcolm on 1 Jul 2010 15:55 On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:40:13 +0200 Joachim Pense <snob(a)pense-mainz.eu> wrote: > > > Am 01.07.2010 21:27, schrieb Malcolm: > > On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:20:59 -0500 > > Chris Cox <chrisncoxn(a)endlessnow.com> wrote: > > > >> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 11:05 -0800, Kevin Miller wrote: > >>> 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was > >>> talked about was having an version update process similar to > >>> Debian's where one can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to > >>> the next rather than having to do a fresh install. How is that > >>> working out? Will it be ready for prime time or is a fresh > >>> install still advised? > >>> > >> > >> Debian's upgrade is NOT painless.. it all depends on what you have > >> done to your system. With regards to openSUSE upgrades, I've been > >> pretty pleased with the results when I've done upgrades. Again, I > >> think it depends a lot on what you've done (esp. with the non std > >> repos), so perhaps I was just lucky. > >> > >> > > Hi > > Yes, if you've added third party, OBS repositories you would need to > > ensure they are all built and up to date with respect to 11.3 before > > using zypper dup. > Would 3rd party already include VLC? > > Joachim Hi For VLC use the packman version, for libdvdcss, I just keep my own copy of the src rpm around and rebuild it when a new release comes out and dump it in a local-plain-rpm repo. Then if I download any orphan rpms (eg fluendo, sun download manager, hulu etc) I just keep them there and install via zyyper. -- Cheers Malcolm ��� (Linux Counter #276890) SUSE Linux Enterprise Desktop 11 (x86_64) Kernel 2.6.32.12-0.7-default up 6 days 3:16, 3 users, load average: 0.09, 0.62, 0.45 GPU GeForce 8600 GTS Silent - Driver Version: 256.35
From: mjt on 1 Jul 2010 16:14 On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:40:13 +0200 Joachim Pense <snob(a)pense-mainz.eu> wrote: [snipped] > > Yes, if you've added third party, OBS repositories you would need to > > ensure they are all built and up to date with respect to 11.3 before > > using zypper dup. > Would 3rd party already include VLC? In general, some packages can be found in the standard openSUSE repos (such as OSS and Non-OSS) AND can be found in 3rd-party repositories. Different versions of VLC are found in the VideoLan repo and in in the Packman repo. Personally, I'm using the 1.2.0-2xxx version out of the VideoLan repo (called "vlc-beta"). VLC is *not* found in the standard openSUSE repos. So in this instance, I'd say VLC is "3rd party". -- We are confronted with insurmountable opportunities. -- Walt Kelly, "Pogo" <<< Remove YOURSHOES to email me >>>
From: David Bolt on 1 Jul 2010 16:00 On Thursday 01 Jul 2010 20:34, while playing with a tin of spray paint, Ulick Magee painted this mural: > Kevin Miller wrote: >> 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was talked >> about was having an version update process similar to Debian's where one >> can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to the next rather than >> having to do a fresh install. How is that working out? Will it be >> ready for prime time or is a fresh install still advised? > > zypper dup has been around since at least 11.1. IIRC at least one > regular poster here has used it successfully to go to 11.2 I've managed one from 10.3 to 11.1 and another from 11.0 to 11.2, both without issues. Another that was going from 11.1 to 11.2 didn't go quite as well, but that was also because I tried forcing it to go from 11.1 32bit to 11.2 64bit. Things didn't go so well and I ended up doing almost a fresh install. I know that the main reason for that screw-up was because it became painfully obvious that I'd forgotten to reboot into a 64bit environment before continuing with the upgrade after installing the 64bit kernel and supporting packages. As for my other 10.3 systems, one will get moved to 11.1 sometime in the very near future, and the other to 11.3 a little after it's released. Regards, David Bolt -- Team Acorn: www.distributed.net openSUSE 11.0 32b | | | openSUSE 11.3RC1 32b | openSUSE 11.1 64b | openSUSE 11.2 64b | TOS 4.02 | openSUSE 11.1 PPC | RISC OS 4.02 | RISC OS 3.11
From: Joachim Pense on 1 Jul 2010 16:29 Am 01.07.2010 22:14, schrieb mjt: > On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:40:13 +0200 > Joachim Pense <snob(a)pense-mainz.eu> wrote: > > [snipped] >>> Yes, if you've added third party, OBS repositories you would need to >>> ensure they are all built and up to date with respect to 11.3 before >>> using zypper dup. > >> Would 3rd party already include VLC? > > In general, some packages can be found in the standard openSUSE > repos (such as OSS and Non-OSS) AND can be found in 3rd-party > repositories. > > Different versions of VLC are found in the VideoLan repo and in > in the Packman repo. Personally, I'm using the 1.2.0-2xxx version > out of the VideoLan repo (called "vlc-beta"). VLC is *not* found > in the standard openSUSE repos. > > So in this instance, I'd say VLC is "3rd party". > So a good strategy would be "deinstall, upgrade, install from scratch"? I went through many SUSE versions since 6.0 but never attempted an upgrade, but now I thought I might give it a try. Joachim
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