From: Kevin Miller on
13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was talked
about was having an version update process similar to Debian's where one
can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to the next rather than
having to do a fresh install. How is that working out? Will it be
ready for prime time or is a fresh install still advised?

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From: Chris Cox on
On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 11:05 -0800, Kevin Miller wrote:
> 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was talked
> about was having an version update process similar to Debian's where one
> can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to the next rather than
> having to do a fresh install. How is that working out? Will it be
> ready for prime time or is a fresh install still advised?
>

Debian's upgrade is NOT painless.. it all depends on what you have done
to your system. With regards to openSUSE upgrades, I've been pretty
pleased with the results when I've done upgrades. Again, I think it
depends a lot on what you've done (esp. with the non std repos), so
perhaps I was just lucky.


From: Malcolm on
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 14:20:59 -0500
Chris Cox <chrisncoxn(a)endlessnow.com> wrote:

> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 11:05 -0800, Kevin Miller wrote:
> > 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was
> > talked about was having an version update process similar to
> > Debian's where one can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to
> > the next rather than having to do a fresh install. How is that
> > working out? Will it be ready for prime time or is a fresh install
> > still advised?
> >
>
> Debian's upgrade is NOT painless.. it all depends on what you have
> done to your system. With regards to openSUSE upgrades, I've been
> pretty pleased with the results when I've done upgrades. Again, I
> think it depends a lot on what you've done (esp. with the non std
> repos), so perhaps I was just lucky.
>
>
Hi
Yes, if you've added third party, OBS repositories you would need to
ensure they are all built and up to date with respect to 11.3 before
using zypper dup. I still prefer a clean install, I have a script to
just setup softlinks to my config files on a separate partiton
(not /home). You could also script out adding repos and the zypper in
to add your other applications? eg;

zypper ar <some_url1> 'repo1'
zypper ar <some_url2> 'repo2'
zypper ar <some_url3> 'repo3'
zypper in <this_app> <that_app> <some_app> etc

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From: Ulick Magee on
Kevin Miller wrote:
> 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was talked
> about was having an version update process similar to Debian's where one
> can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to the next rather than
> having to do a fresh install. How is that working out? Will it be
> ready for prime time or is a fresh install still advised?

zypper dup has been around since at least 11.1. IIRC at least one
regular poster here has used it successfully to go to 11.2



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From: mjt on
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 11:05:33 -0800
Kevin Miller <atftb2(a)alaska.net> wrote:

> 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was talked
> about was having an version update process similar to Debian's where one
> can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to the next rather than
> having to do a fresh install. How is that working out? Will it be
> ready for prime time or is a fresh install still advised?

Personally, I have multiple partitions set up to accommodate
the "rotation" of 4 OS version installs and /home resides in
its own partition for sharing among the installs. For example:

+------+------+------+-------+-------+
| 11.0 | 11.1 | 11.2 | 11.3 | /home |
+------+------+------+-------+-------+

Here we have 5 partitions where a different version of openSUSE
lives and then one for /home, so that each version can share it.

I have 11.3 RC1 installed and use it for testing, but my current
stable version (where I do all my serious work) is 11.2. When the
final release of 11.3 comes out, I'll download the Delta ISO and
apply to to the recent ISO (rather than downloading the 4.x GB ISO),
and install it to the 11.3 partition, as a fresh install.

I've done "upgrades" in the past, but find it much less problematic
to just do a fresh install - it doesn't take that much longer and
I can customize the install exactly how I want it.

When I feel that 11.3 is stable and everything works the way I
want it, I'll switch GRUB to [auto] boot into 11.3, versus 11.2.
I'll keep 11.2 around just in case I've discovered that some 11.3
package doesn't work for whatever reason (and is critical to use).
Sometimes, I might not use some software for a month or two down
the road.

Although I show 11.0 and 11.1 in the two other partitions, they don't
exist anymore, but other Linux distros live in those partitions for
testing and variety. AAMOF, I have 25 partitions across 3 drives that
have quite a few different Linux distros (plus BSD) :)

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