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From: mjt on 1 Jul 2010 16:56
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:29:35 +0200
Joachim Pense <snob(a)pense-mainz.eu> wrote:

> > So in this instance, I'd say VLC is "3rd party".
> >
>
> So a good strategy would be "deinstall, upgrade, install from scratch"?

Whatever you're comfortable with.

> I went through many SUSE versions since 6.0 but never attempted an
> upgrade, but now I thought I might give it a try.

Be sure to backup any critical data on your
current install before the upgrade.

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From: Malcolm on 1 Jul 2010 17:59
On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 22:29:35 +0200
Joachim Pense <snob(a)pense-mainz.eu> wrote:

>
>
> Am 01.07.2010 22:14, schrieb mjt:
> > On Thu, 01 Jul 2010 21:40:13 +0200
> > Joachim Pense <snob(a)pense-mainz.eu> wrote:
> >
> > [snipped]
> >>> Yes, if you've added third party, OBS repositories you would need
> >>> to ensure they are all built and up to date with respect to 11.3
> >>> before using zypper dup.
> >
> >> Would 3rd party already include VLC?
> >
> > In general, some packages can be found in the standard openSUSE
> > repos (such as OSS and Non-OSS) AND can be found in 3rd-party
> > repositories.
> >
> > Different versions of VLC are found in the VideoLan repo and in
> > in the Packman repo. Personally, I'm using the 1.2.0-2xxx version
> > out of the VideoLan repo (called "vlc-beta"). VLC is *not* found
> > in the standard openSUSE repos.
> >
> > So in this instance, I'd say VLC is "3rd party".
> >
>
> So a good strategy would be "deinstall, upgrade, install from
> scratch"?
>
> I went through many SUSE versions since 6.0 but never attempted an
> upgrade, but now I thought I might give it a try.
>
> Joachim
Hi
There is YaST-Wagon? But again, it recommends disabling other
repositories.
http://en.opensuse.org/Wagon

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From: mjt on 1 Jul 2010 18:00
On Thu, 1 Jul 2010 23:39:06 +0200
houghi <houghi(a)houghi.org.invalid> wrote:
> mjt wrote:
> > Be sure to backup any critical data on your
> > current install before the upgrade.
>
> Backup is for wussies. :-D

:)

It's funny ... I always tell people to back up their data at least
once every month or before any critical operations, such as upgrading
the OS ... and I'm the worse at not doing it myself[1] :)


[1] It should be noted, however, that I do not back up my "personal"
machines at home - business-related machines *do* get backed up.

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From: J G Miller on 1 Jul 2010 18:38
On Thursday, July 1st, 2010 at 15:56:45h -0500, MJT advised:

> Be sure to backup any critical data on your current install before the
> upgrade.

Indeed so, and when doing an upgrade I would recommend always doing
a tar cvzf of /etc so that you have a copy of all of your configuration
files, some of which may be highly customized.

From: Will Honea on 2 Jul 2010 01:25
Kevin Miller wrote:

> 13 days to go! When 11.2 was released one of the goals that was talked
> about was having an version update process similar to Debian's where one
> can (fairly) painlessly go from one release to the next rather than
> having to do a fresh install. How is that working out? Will it be
> ready for prime time or is a fresh install still advised?

If the latest RC2 is any indication, the process has worked nicely with one
very major exception: video. The setup/configuration has been changed to
deprecate sax2 and NVIDIA, especially older versions, seem to be a major
PITA. I know that is the case here - I have to go through all sorts of
gyrations to get video configured acceptably. If I ignore that issue, I've
been quite happy with the upgrade results from both 11.1 and 11.2 as far as
I can go. There are some problems that have to be attributed to lack of
updated apps in the repos but that is to be expected at this stage.

Put it this way: my experience with the current RC level has been way better
than the 11.1 -> 11.2 or 11.0 -> 11.1 upgrades with the one caveat re:
video. Just one isolated case so take it with a large grain of salt and
hold off for a few days after the GM release unless you have a sandbox to
risk.

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