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From: Fred Moore on 29 Jan 2010 12:03
In article <hjtftj$q31$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> "Brigham Young agrees to confine himself to one woman,
> if every member of Congress will do the same."
> -- Weekly Republican, 1869

Wes, where _do_ you find these quotes? I want to subscribe.
From: Davoud on 30 Jan 2010 14:01
Fred Moore:
> My point is that with WPA2 you could get away with
> something simple and unmunged (so you remember it) if you just make it
> long. Viz: 'mynameislloydmynameislloydmynameislloydmynameislloyd'. The
> better the protocol, the less you have to munge the pw.

For an experienced cryptographer with mediocre software your example
wouldn't last 2 minutes. For an experienced cryptographer (an
old-timer, maybe) working with pad and pencil I would give it an hour,
max.

Davoud

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

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From: Fred Moore on 31 Jan 2010 13:36
In article <300120101401406754%star(a)sky.net>, Davoud <star(a)sky.net>
wrote:

> Fred Moore:
> > My point is that with WPA2 you could get away with
> > something simple and unmunged (so you remember it) if you just make it
> > long. Viz: 'mynameislloydmynameislloydmynameislloydmynameislloyd'. The
> > better the protocol, the less you have to munge the pw.
>
> For an experienced cryptographer with mediocre software your example
> wouldn't last 2 minutes. For an experienced cryptographer (an
> old-timer, maybe) working with pad and pencil I would give it an hour,
> max.

I think your speculation is optimistic, but please remember the context:
a good protocol, in a low-risk situation, and an easy to
remember/reconstruct pw. It wasn't intended to protect state secrets.
From: Wes Groleau on 31 Jan 2010 16:56
Fred Moore wrote:
> Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>
>> "Brigham Young agrees to confine himself to one woman,
>> if every member of Congress will do the same."
>> -- Weekly Republican, 1869
>
> Wes, where _do_ you find these quotes? I want to subscribe.

I'm into genealogy/biography/local history.

One of my ancestors published the first English-language newspaper
in Kansas, and so I read a book about printing in the "wild west."
That quote was in it.

Some of them I happened across in other books.
Some of them I encountered on-line.
And some of them I created myself.

The ones from Lang-Learn are blog posts.

--
Wes Groleau

German Teachers
http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/WWW?itemid=81
From: Fred Moore on 1 Feb 2010 13:43
In article <hk4ua8$8q9$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> Fred Moore wrote:
> > Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >
> >> "Brigham Young agrees to confine himself to one woman,
> >> if every member of Congress will do the same."
> >> -- Weekly Republican, 1869
> >
> > Wes, where _do_ you find these quotes? I want to subscribe.
>
> I'm into genealogy/biography/local history.
>
> One of my ancestors published the first English-language newspaper
> in Kansas, and so I read a book about printing in the "wild west."
> That quote was in it.
>
> Some of them I happened across in other books.
> Some of them I encountered on-line.
> And some of them I created myself.
>
> The ones from Lang-Learn are blog posts.

An eclectic mix. Thanks for letting me know.
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