From: Barry Margolin on
In article <4b5f298d(a)news.victoria.tc.ca>,
ws917(a)vtn1.victoria.tc.ca (Frank P. Eigler) wrote:

> Barry Margolin (barmar(a)alum.mit.edu) wrote:
> [snip]
> : Yeah, I learned that last week. I got a WiFi Internet radio, and you
> : have to use telephone-style texting to enter the SSID and password on
> : its remote control. My SSID is all lowercase, and so is most of my
> : password, and it takes a half dozen presses of each key to go through
> : the digit, uppercase letters and accented letters to get to the
> : lowercase letters. If I had SSID broadcasting enabled, I would only
> : have had to go through this pain for the password, not the SSID as well.
>
> I'd suggest turning on broadcasting for the short period of time you need
> to set up that device.

Yeah, as I mentioned in another post, I had a mental block at the time,
and that obvious solution didn't occur to me.

I used to use MAC filtering as well, but it was a pain in the butt to
keep updating the list when I brought home new devices.

--
Barry Margolin, barmar(a)alum.mit.edu
Arlington, MA
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From: Richard Maine on
Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:

> I used to use MAC filtering as well, but it was a pain in the butt to
> keep updating the list when I brought home new devices.

Or when a trusted friend/relative comes over and wants to use your net.
Yes, it can be done, but it is a pain. Much easier to be able to just
call over my shoulder that the password is xxxx (no, that's not it),
without having to interrupt whatever else I'm doing at the moment.

--
Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: Richard Maine on
(Following up to myself... I know. Another thought just after I send
it).

Richard Maine <nospam(a)see.signature> wrote:

> Barry Margolin <barmar(a)alum.mit.edu> wrote:
>
> > I used to use MAC filtering as well, but it was a pain in the butt to
> > keep updating the list when I brought home new devices.
>
> Or when a trusted friend/relative comes over and wants to use your net.
> Yes, it can be done, but it is a pain. Much easier to be able to just
> call over my shoulder that the password is xxxx (no, that's not it),
> without having to interrupt whatever else I'm doing at the moment.

Or even more so when I'm doing the same thing for.... say... my
mother-in-law's network. She calls up and says that one of her
granddaughters (my nieces) is there and needs help to connect to her
network. All I need to do is tell my niece the password as it is now.

Talking my 80-year-old mother-in-law go through adding a new MAC address
to a filter list is a non-starter. Having her even remember a password
is not much more likely, but she can call me for that. Setting up remote
access for me to configure the net is not my idea of improved security.
I suppose I could do the 20-minute drive over there.

--
Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: Richard Maine on
Dan <me(a)here.net> wrote:

> When someone comes over with a laptop (which has happened exactly twice
> in 5 years), I enter their MAC address. Big deal. You all make it
> sound like its difficult or something.

Some of us have more than 2 friends. :-)

And yes, it can be difficult. See one of my other posts. I should let
you try talking my 80-year-old mother-in-law through it over the phone
for her home network than you are running for her. Lots of luck. You'd
probably get frustrated before managing to explain to her how to type
the right url into her browser. (I am *NOT* exagerating on that; I
picture dificulty in making sure that typing focus is in the right place
for typing a url).

--
Richard Maine | Good judgment comes from experience;
email: last name at domain . net | experience comes from bad judgment.
domain: summertriangle | -- Mark Twain
From: nospam on
In article <tom_stiller-D35270.07451626012010(a)news.individual.net>, Tom
Stiller <tom_stiller(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

> Since nearby users don't see it, what are the odds that they will pick
> an interfering channel when setting up their own WAP?

so check it every once in a while and change the channel if necessary.
how often do additional networks appear? are your neighbors that
transient?

> As been said, it adds no security and is a needless complication.

as i said, i find it to be a useful improvement with no additional
complications.