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From: John Larkin on 5 Jun 2010 14:42 On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:30:26 -0400, "Michael Robinson" <nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: > >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:fi2l069if2258t9cr7lk1svk41v5n1bn4t(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 10:10:12 -0700, John Larkin >> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:04:48 -0400, "Michael Robinson" >>><nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: >>> >>>>In order to study at UVM you have to satisfy the diveristy requirment >>>>(classes that address racism etc). All good and well, I suppose. Then >>>>I >>>>looked a bit deeper, and was appalled >>>> >>>>In the section regarding transfer credits that fulfill the diversity >>>>requirement, it says the course must >>>> >>>>"... include content that fosters self reflection regarding one's own >>>>prejudices in a manner that is observable by the instructor." >>>> >>>>It's reminiscent of enforced self-criticism in the former Soviet Union >>>>and >>>>Maoist China. >>>> >>>>How would a student entering UVM fight politically correct brainwashing? >>>>If >>>>you were to protest it outright, you would immediately get branded as a >>>>racist. >>>> >>> >>>Go overboard and parody it. You'll have fun, they won't get it, and >>>everybody will be happy. >>> >>>Part of why you go to college is to learn how to manipulate the >>>professors, with minumum energy expended. >>> >>>John >>> >> >> A UVM oxymoron: "...excellence in liberal education..." >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >Hey Jim, you already know this but I'm going to say it anyway. >"Liberal" education has nothing to do with current politics, or any sort of >politics. >Here's a quote that expresses what liberal education means pretty well: >"In classical antiquity, the liberal arts denoted the education proper to a >free man (Latin: liberus, "free")" (from Wikipedia). >My complaint is _not_ that UVM is too liberal (in the sense used in American >politics), >but that it is not liberal enough, in the true meaning of the word liberal: >that is, free. As in intellectual freedom. >You see the word liberal and it's like somebody hit your knee with a rubber >hammer. > Exactly. Leftist is the enemy of liberal. John
From: Jim Thompson on 5 Jun 2010 14:48 On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:30:26 -0400, "Michael Robinson" <nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: > >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:fi2l069if2258t9cr7lk1svk41v5n1bn4t(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 10:10:12 -0700, John Larkin >> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> >>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:04:48 -0400, "Michael Robinson" >>><nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: >>> >>>>In order to study at UVM you have to satisfy the diveristy requirment >>>>(classes that address racism etc). All good and well, I suppose. Then >>>>I >>>>looked a bit deeper, and was appalled >>>> >>>>In the section regarding transfer credits that fulfill the diversity >>>>requirement, it says the course must >>>> >>>>"... include content that fosters self reflection regarding one's own >>>>prejudices in a manner that is observable by the instructor." >>>> >>>>It's reminiscent of enforced self-criticism in the former Soviet Union >>>>and >>>>Maoist China. >>>> >>>>How would a student entering UVM fight politically correct brainwashing? >>>>If >>>>you were to protest it outright, you would immediately get branded as a >>>>racist. >>>> >>> >>>Go overboard and parody it. You'll have fun, they won't get it, and >>>everybody will be happy. >>> >>>Part of why you go to college is to learn how to manipulate the >>>professors, with minumum energy expended. >>> >>>John >>> >> >> A UVM oxymoron: "...excellence in liberal education..." >> >> ...Jim Thompson > >Hey Jim, you already know this but I'm going to say it anyway. >"Liberal" education has nothing to do with current politics, or any sort of >politics. It's not supposed to, but unfortunately it does. >Here's a quote that expresses what liberal education means pretty well: >"In classical antiquity, the liberal arts denoted the education proper to a >free man (Latin: liberus, "free")" (from Wikipedia). >My complaint is _not_ that UVM is too liberal (in the sense used in American >politics), >but that it is not liberal enough, in the true meaning of the word liberal: >that is, free. As in intellectual freedom. Wish it 'twere so. In virtually _every_ college in the US today, (including, unfortunately, my alma mater MIT), "education" is leftist brain-washing. Look around you. Which speakers get shouted down?? >You see the word liberal and it's like somebody hit your knee with a rubber >hammer. > Nope. I, personally, am as "liberal" as they come. Do what you want, I could care less. Get in my face, get yours blown away. ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy
From: Michael Robinson on 5 Jun 2010 14:54 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:ri6l061i2bppmv76jj4rkta7n4411bp6bn(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:30:26 -0400, "Michael Robinson" > <nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: > >> >>"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote >>in >>message news:fi2l069if2258t9cr7lk1svk41v5n1bn4t(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 10:10:12 -0700, John Larkin >>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:04:48 -0400, "Michael Robinson" >>>><nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>In order to study at UVM you have to satisfy the diveristy requirment >>>>>(classes that address racism etc). All good and well, I suppose. Then >>>>>I >>>>>looked a bit deeper, and was appalled >>>>> >>>>>In the section regarding transfer credits that fulfill the diversity >>>>>requirement, it says the course must >>>>> >>>>>"... include content that fosters self reflection regarding one's own >>>>>prejudices in a manner that is observable by the instructor." >>>>> >>>>>It's reminiscent of enforced self-criticism in the former Soviet Union >>>>>and >>>>>Maoist China. >>>>> >>>>>How would a student entering UVM fight politically correct >>>>>brainwashing? >>>>>If >>>>>you were to protest it outright, you would immediately get branded as a >>>>>racist. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Go overboard and parody it. You'll have fun, they won't get it, and >>>>everybody will be happy. >>>> >>>>Part of why you go to college is to learn how to manipulate the >>>>professors, with minumum energy expended. >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>> >>> A UVM oxymoron: "...excellence in liberal education..." >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>Hey Jim, you already know this but I'm going to say it anyway. >>"Liberal" education has nothing to do with current politics, or any sort >>of >>politics. >>Here's a quote that expresses what liberal education means pretty well: >>"In classical antiquity, the liberal arts denoted the education proper to >>a >>free man (Latin: liberus, "free")" (from Wikipedia). >>My complaint is _not_ that UVM is too liberal (in the sense used in >>American >>politics), >>but that it is not liberal enough, in the true meaning of the word >>liberal: >>that is, free. As in intellectual freedom. >>You see the word liberal and it's like somebody hit your knee with a >>rubber >>hammer. >> > > Exactly. Leftist is the enemy of liberal. > > John > It doesn't matter which turn signal is doing the blinking. I complained about something that's associated with "liberalism," and then everybody jumped on the us-versus-them bandwagon. What's the point of trying to open a discussion about something meaningful when it just degenerates into the same old bashing we see every day here on the newsgroups and public discourse in general? It's tiresome. And there's no mental stimulation in it.
From: Michael Robinson on 5 Jun 2010 14:57 "Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in message news:qn6l06th241m8koph0v1vqfhk2rmc013qk(a)4ax.com... > On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:30:26 -0400, "Michael Robinson" > <nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: > >> >>"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote >>in >>message news:fi2l069if2258t9cr7lk1svk41v5n1bn4t(a)4ax.com... >>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 10:10:12 -0700, John Larkin >>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> >>>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:04:48 -0400, "Michael Robinson" >>>><nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>In order to study at UVM you have to satisfy the diveristy requirment >>>>>(classes that address racism etc). All good and well, I suppose. Then >>>>>I >>>>>looked a bit deeper, and was appalled >>>>> >>>>>In the section regarding transfer credits that fulfill the diversity >>>>>requirement, it says the course must >>>>> >>>>>"... include content that fosters self reflection regarding one's own >>>>>prejudices in a manner that is observable by the instructor." >>>>> >>>>>It's reminiscent of enforced self-criticism in the former Soviet Union >>>>>and >>>>>Maoist China. >>>>> >>>>>How would a student entering UVM fight politically correct >>>>>brainwashing? >>>>>If >>>>>you were to protest it outright, you would immediately get branded as a >>>>>racist. >>>>> >>>> >>>>Go overboard and parody it. You'll have fun, they won't get it, and >>>>everybody will be happy. >>>> >>>>Part of why you go to college is to learn how to manipulate the >>>>professors, with minumum energy expended. >>>> >>>>John >>>> >>> >>> A UVM oxymoron: "...excellence in liberal education..." >>> >>> ...Jim Thompson >> >>Hey Jim, you already know this but I'm going to say it anyway. >>"Liberal" education has nothing to do with current politics, or any sort >>of >>politics. > > It's not supposed to, but unfortunately it does. > >>Here's a quote that expresses what liberal education means pretty well: >>"In classical antiquity, the liberal arts denoted the education proper to >>a >>free man (Latin: liberus, "free")" (from Wikipedia). >>My complaint is _not_ that UVM is too liberal (in the sense used in >>American >>politics), >>but that it is not liberal enough, in the true meaning of the word >>liberal: >>that is, free. As in intellectual freedom. > > Wish it 'twere so. In virtually _every_ college in the US today, > (including, unfortunately, my alma mater MIT), "education" is leftist > brain-washing. Look around you. Which speakers get shouted down?? > >>You see the word liberal and it's like somebody hit your knee with a >>rubber >>hammer. >> > > Nope. I, personally, am as "liberal" as they come. Do what you want, > I could care less. Get in my face, get yours blown away. > > ...Jim Thompson > -- > Okay, Jim.
From: Jim Thompson on 5 Jun 2010 15:03
On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:57:49 -0400, "Michael Robinson" <nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: > >"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote in >message news:qn6l06th241m8koph0v1vqfhk2rmc013qk(a)4ax.com... >> On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 14:30:26 -0400, "Michael Robinson" >> <nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: >> >>> >>>"Jim Thompson" <To-Email-Use-The-Envelope-Icon(a)On-My-Web-Site.com> wrote >>>in >>>message news:fi2l069if2258t9cr7lk1svk41v5n1bn4t(a)4ax.com... >>>> On Sat, 05 Jun 2010 10:10:12 -0700, John Larkin >>>> <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>>On Sat, 5 Jun 2010 13:04:48 -0400, "Michael Robinson" >>>>><nospam(a)billburg.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>>In order to study at UVM you have to satisfy the diveristy requirment >>>>>>(classes that address racism etc). All good and well, I suppose. Then >>>>>>I >>>>>>looked a bit deeper, and was appalled >>>>>> >>>>>>In the section regarding transfer credits that fulfill the diversity >>>>>>requirement, it says the course must >>>>>> >>>>>>"... include content that fosters self reflection regarding one's own >>>>>>prejudices in a manner that is observable by the instructor." >>>>>> >>>>>>It's reminiscent of enforced self-criticism in the former Soviet Union >>>>>>and >>>>>>Maoist China. >>>>>> >>>>>>How would a student entering UVM fight politically correct >>>>>>brainwashing? >>>>>>If >>>>>>you were to protest it outright, you would immediately get branded as a >>>>>>racist. >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>>Go overboard and parody it. You'll have fun, they won't get it, and >>>>>everybody will be happy. >>>>> >>>>>Part of why you go to college is to learn how to manipulate the >>>>>professors, with minumum energy expended. >>>>> >>>>>John >>>>> >>>> >>>> A UVM oxymoron: "...excellence in liberal education..." >>>> >>>> ...Jim Thompson >>> >>>Hey Jim, you already know this but I'm going to say it anyway. >>>"Liberal" education has nothing to do with current politics, or any sort >>>of >>>politics. >> >> It's not supposed to, but unfortunately it does. >> >>>Here's a quote that expresses what liberal education means pretty well: >>>"In classical antiquity, the liberal arts denoted the education proper to >>>a >>>free man (Latin: liberus, "free")" (from Wikipedia). >>>My complaint is _not_ that UVM is too liberal (in the sense used in >>>American >>>politics), >>>but that it is not liberal enough, in the true meaning of the word >>>liberal: >>>that is, free. As in intellectual freedom. >> >> Wish it 'twere so. In virtually _every_ college in the US today, >> (including, unfortunately, my alma mater MIT), "education" is leftist >> brain-washing. Look around you. Which speakers get shouted down?? >> >>>You see the word liberal and it's like somebody hit your knee with a >>>rubber >>>hammer. >>> >> >> Nope. I, personally, am as "liberal" as they come. Do what you want, >> I could care less. Get in my face, get yours blown away. >> >> ...Jim Thompson >> -- >> >Okay, Jim. > Go to UVM, you'll fit right in, and you'll get the "education" you deserve :-) ...Jim Thompson -- | James E.Thompson, CTO | mens | | Analog Innovations, Inc. | et | | Analog/Mixed-Signal ASIC's and Discrete Systems | manus | | Phoenix, Arizona 85048 Skype: Contacts Only | | | Voice:(480)460-2350 Fax: Available upon request | Brass Rat | | E-mail Icon at http://www.analog-innovations.com | 1962 | The only thing bipartisan in this country is hypocrisy |