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From: Dave on 13 Sep 2009 08:15 I'll probably be buying an Ultra 27 http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra27/ in the next week or so, but Sun's disks prices are rather steep. 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA Disk Drive with Bracket is � 540.00 here in the UK ($902). I currently use a couple of external 1 TB mirrored drives, but would not make heavy use of them, as they are cheap drives. But enterprise grade disks are available for a lot less from elsewhere. Is it possible to get the spud backets for these? If not, though thought of buying 4 x 250 GB drives, throwing away the drives, and putting 4 x 1 TB disks in place had crossed my mind. -- I respectfully request that this message is not archived by companies as unscrupulous as 'Experts Exchange' . In case you are unaware, 'Experts Exchange' take questions posted on the web and try to find idiots stupid enough to pay for the answers, which were posted freely by others. They are leeches.
From: Richard B. Gilbert on 13 Sep 2009 09:45 Dave wrote: > I'll probably be buying an Ultra 27 > > http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra27/ > > in the next week or so, but Sun's disks prices are rather steep. > > 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA Disk Drive with Bracket is � 540.00 here in the UK > ($902). > > I currently use a couple of external 1 TB mirrored drives, but would not > make heavy use of them, as they are cheap drives. But enterprise grade > disks are available for a lot less from elsewhere. Is it possible to get > the spud backets for these? If not, though thought of buying 4 x 250 GB > drives, throwing away the drives, and putting 4 x 1 TB disks in place > had crossed my mind. > > This sounds as if Sun has been taken over by refugees from the late Digital Equipment Corporation! Some companies seem to have great difficulty understanding that this sort of price gouging will come back to haunt them! I haven't looked closely but I think my local Office Max store sells such drives for around $100. They certainly are nowhere near $902. Buying a third party drive will mean that Sun probably will not support it! OTOH, what you will save in the purchase price and any subsequent maintenance (replace the drive) will more than compensate! The drive will have a manufacturers warranty covering you for at least 90 days. You could replace the drive six times a year and still pay less than what Sun wants.
From: Canuck57 on 13 Sep 2009 10:19 "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88(a)comcast.net> wrote in message news:1cidnZydH7HjajHXnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... > Dave wrote: >> I'll probably be buying an Ultra 27 >> >> http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra27/ >> >> in the next week or so, but Sun's disks prices are rather steep. >> >> 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA Disk Drive with Bracket is � 540.00 here in the UK >> ($902). >> >> I currently use a couple of external 1 TB mirrored drives, but would not >> make heavy use of them, as they are cheap drives. But enterprise grade >> disks are available for a lot less from elsewhere. Is it possible to get >> the spud backets for these? If not, though thought of buying 4 x 250 GB >> drives, throwing away the drives, and putting 4 x 1 TB disks in place had >> crossed my mind. >> >> > > This sounds as if Sun has been taken over by refugees from the late > Digital Equipment Corporation! Some companies seem to have great > difficulty understanding that this sort of price gouging will come back to > haunt them! > > I haven't looked closely but I think my local Office Max store sells such > drives for around $100. They certainly are nowhere near $902. > > Buying a third party drive will mean that Sun probably will not support > it! OTOH, what you will save in the purchase price and any subsequent > maintenance (replace the drive) will more than compensate! The drive will > have a manufacturers warranty covering you for at least 90 days. > You could replace the drive six times a year and still pay less than what > Sun wants. Agreed. When someone looks at TCO they quickly discover the systems are much more expensive than they need to be for disk and memory gouging. And more often than not you are better off to load up a Linux COTS box with 6 SATA x 1T for a 0+1 3TB useable. And I can get those drives for under $100 each. Plus, since I oversize I don't have to waste 2 days to explain and beg the SAN guy for a small 100GB. Plus DAS still rocks in reliability and performance as an added bonus. Going through a SAN to a overloaded back end storage box is oten micromanagement of storage that makes no economic sense. It will and IS coming back to haunt Sun and others. That is one main reason to use Linux over Solaris.
From: Chris Ridd on 13 Sep 2009 11:26 On 2009-09-13 15:19:35 +0100, "Canuck57" <fred(a)nospam.com> said: > It will and IS coming back to haunt Sun and others. That is one main reason > to use Linux over Solaris. No, that's just one reason to run Solaris on non-Sun hardware :-) -- Chris
From: abuse on 13 Sep 2009 13:26 On 2009-09-13, Canuck57 <fred(a)nospam.com> wrote: > > "Richard B. Gilbert" <rgilbert88(a)comcast.net> wrote in message > news:1cidnZydH7HjajHXnZ2dnUVZ_qmdnZ2d(a)giganews.com... >> Dave wrote: >>> I'll probably be buying an Ultra 27 >>> >>> http://www.sun.com/desktop/workstation/ultra27/ >>> >>> in the next week or so, but Sun's disks prices are rather steep. >>> >>> 1 TB 7200 rpm SATA Disk Drive with Bracket is � 540.00 here in the UK >>> ($902). .... >> This sounds as if Sun has been taken over by refugees from the late >> Digital Equipment Corporation! Some companies seem to have great >> difficulty understanding that this sort of price gouging will come back to >> haunt them! >> >> I haven't looked closely but I think my local Office Max store sells such >> drives for around $100. They certainly are nowhere near $902. >> >> Buying a third party drive will mean that Sun probably will not support >> it! Back when we used A1000s Sun used to publish firmware numbers for supported drives. An unsupported drive would mostl likely be failed by the controller. NetApp's doing the same with drive prices, although they have an official excuse: they flash their own firmware to support block-level bells and whistles. It's nothing new, nor is it exclusive to Sun. > It will and IS coming back to haunt Sun and others. That is one main reason > to use Linux over Solaris. No. There's also freeware install instructions that usualy go - ditch SUNWspro and install gunk - find and install version of libtool that works on your box - for i in bunch of libraries - hack i's autoconf to use your working libtool - build and install i - hack i's Makefile for "-m64" - build and install i again (optionally, use pkg tools) - build perl from source etc. As opposed to "yum install <whatever>". Dima
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