From: Jolly Roger on
In article <d9n9265enm22sjnj5brvfmm028ok14ol1p(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 11:31:49 -0400, Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org>
> wrote:
>
> >> You can't drag a file you can't see.
> >> But if you drag a directory to another volume,
> >> it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows.
> >
> >Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or
> >other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind
> >with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within
> >your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control.
>
> Hmmm, that's scary. How do I know when/if this is a problem? My
> standard login does not have administrator rights.

If you use a command-line utility such as rsync to synchronize files,
typically you can have it output a log of every file it touches (or
doesn't touch).

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From: Warren Oates on
In article <jollyroger-C02531.14124725062010(a)news.individual.net>,
Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com> wrote:

>
> If you use a command-line utility such as rsync to synchronize files,
> typically you can have it output a log of every file it touches (or
> doesn't touch).

I use cron to run rsync, and cron will happily email me the verbose (as
verbose as I ask for) output from rsync, saying what it's been up to.

Umm, er, thanks, btw, I just checked, and there's some problem with one
of the oul' Woman's volumes ... hmm, I think my wake-on-LAN script
isn't waking up the volume in time.
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From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 14:12:47 -0500, Jolly Roger <jollyroger(a)pobox.com>
wrote:

>> >> You can't drag a file you can't see.
>> >> But if you drag a directory to another volume,
>> >> it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows.
>> >
>> >Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or
>> >other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind
>> >with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within
>> >your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control.
>>
>> Hmmm, that's scary. How do I know when/if this is a problem? My
>> standard login does not have administrator rights.
>
>If you use a command-line utility such as rsync to synchronize files,
>typically you can have it output a log of every file it touches (or
>doesn't touch).

I was reading this to mean that there are times when I drag a folder,
not everything gets dragged, and I wouldn't be warned of this failure.

Is the solution to use a synchronization utility instead of the Mac
finder interface all the time, and read the log each time?

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to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

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From: Warren Oates on
In article <gs2a261vcbjeik5thvqavtjp21slosmh23(a)4ax.com>,
Howard Brazee <howard(a)brazee.net> wrote:

> Is the solution to use a synchronization utility instead of the Mac
> finder interface all the time, and read the log each time?

Yes, absolutely.

Drag and drop hasn't been a useful backup "tool" since we moved to Unix.

Now, there may in fact be some GUI backup utilities that _will_ move
everything for you via drag and drop, but I haven't looked into that,
and the Finder isn't one of them.
--
Very old woody beets will never cook tender.
-- Fannie Farmer
From: Howard Brazee on
On Fri, 25 Jun 2010 16:11:57 -0400, Warren Oates
<warren.oates(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>> Is the solution to use a synchronization utility instead of the Mac
>> finder interface all the time, and read the log each time?
>
>Yes, absolutely.
>
>Drag and drop hasn't been a useful backup "tool" since we moved to Unix.
>
>Now, there may in fact be some GUI backup utilities that _will_ move
>everything for you via drag and drop, but I haven't looked into that,
>and the Finder isn't one of them.

Hmmm, don't tell all of those people who are considering moving to a
Mac because of its easy to use interface, and "it just works". The
image Apple seems to be putting out is that nobody needs to know
command line tools - that the Unix underpinnings are only of interest
to geeks.

I use a GUI synchronization utility - Chrono Sync. But I bought it
primarily to get copies of my wife's critical directories on my drive
where it would get backed up. (It also synchronizes stuff from our
Mobile Me account where I put stuff from work).

--
"In no part of the constitution is more wisdom to be found,
than in the clause which confides the question of war or peace
to the legislature, and not to the executive department."

- James Madison