From: Wes Groleau on
On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote:
> Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
>> > You can't drag a file you can't see.
>> > But if you drag a directory to another volume,
>> > it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows.
> Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or
> other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind
> with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within
> your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control.

Please be more specific. The top three layers of my dir tree contain
NO files that are not owned by me. I did not look at permissions.

And in the many times I've used Finder to copy an entire user's
directory, I am not aware of any with such a failure. In other
words, if any failed, they were not configurations or preferences
for any applications in use.

--
Wes Groleau

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From: Wes Groleau on
On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote:
> sudo rsync, with the appropriate arguments_will_ do the trick however.

Maybe. If the other disk is an NFS-mount, and you don't have
root equivalence, then sudo will not make the other machine
let down its guard.

Furthermore, I never figured out why using rsync without sudo,
and being owner of all files on both sides, it consistently
erred on one attachment to an e-mail which I did own.

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Wes Groleau

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From: Fred Moore on
In article <i033s7$lbv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>,
Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:

> On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote:
> > Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote:
> >> > You can't drag a file you can't see.
> >> > But if you drag a directory to another volume,
> >> > it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows.
>
> > Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or
> > other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind
> > with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within
> > your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control.
>
> Please be more specific. The top three layers of my dir tree contain
> NO files that are not owned by me. I did not look at permissions.
>
> And in the many times I've used Finder to copy an entire user's
> directory, I am not aware of any with such a failure. In other
> words, if any failed, they were not configurations or preferences
> for any applications in use.

Okay, Wes, go ahead and make me look stupid! ;)

I just did a cursory look and couldn't find any either. Back in 10.3.9
it was very common. They often hung out in ~/Library and its subfolders.
That's when I started using rsync and other utilities (see SuperDuper!
note below) to copy user folders. There is/was the possibility of
someone putting an incorrectly permissioned file in your Drop Box
(~/Public/Drop Box?) so that it wouldn't copy with a drag and drop.
However, I'll acknowledge that sort of screw up is beyond the norm.

BTW, Howard, if you don't want to use the command line, SuperDuper! will
allow you to copy just user folders to a backup volume. It uses the
updated rsync IIRC.
From: Wes Groleau on
On 06-25-2010 17:18, Fred Moore wrote:
> I just did a cursory look and couldn't find any either. Back in 10.3.9
> it was very common. They often hung out in ~/Library and its subfolders.

I believe you. If I didn't, I'm not about to re-install 10.3
just to check on it. :-)

--
Wes Groleau

Teaching Tip: Take Care of your Health
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From: Fred Moore on
In article <fmoore-C8F947.17183125062010(a)mx01.eternal-september.org>,
Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote:

> BTW, Howard, if you don't want to use the command line, SuperDuper! will
> allow you to copy just user folders to a backup volume. It uses the
> updated rsync IIRC.

I knew there was another utility which might be useful to you, Howard.

Backuplist+ <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/29671>

It uses rsync, is donationware, and has a 5-star rating. It has much
more flexibility than SuperDuper! for backing up just selected files.