From: Wes Groleau on 25 Jun 2010 16:32 On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote: > Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: >> > You can't drag a file you can't see. >> > But if you drag a directory to another volume, >> > it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows. > Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or > other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind > with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within > your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control. Please be more specific. The top three layers of my dir tree contain NO files that are not owned by me. I did not look at permissions. And in the many times I've used Finder to copy an entire user's directory, I am not aware of any with such a failure. In other words, if any failed, they were not configurations or preferences for any applications in use. -- Wes Groleau The Inca: Yesterday and Today http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1487
From: Wes Groleau on 25 Jun 2010 16:51 On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote: > sudo rsync, with the appropriate arguments_will_ do the trick however. Maybe. If the other disk is an NFS-mount, and you don't have root equivalence, then sudo will not make the other machine let down its guard. Furthermore, I never figured out why using rsync without sudo, and being owner of all files on both sides, it consistently erred on one attachment to an e-mail which I did own. -- Wes Groleau ------ "The reason most women would rather have beauty than brains is they know that most men can see better than they can think." -- James Dobson
From: Fred Moore on 25 Jun 2010 17:18 In article <i033s7$lbv$1(a)news.eternal-september.org>, Wes Groleau <Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > On 06-25-2010 11:31, Fred Moore wrote: > > Wes Groleau<Groleau+news(a)FreeShell.org> wrote: > >> > You can't drag a file you can't see. > >> > But if you drag a directory to another volume, > >> > it's dot-files won't be omitted from the copying that follows. > > > Except if you don't have sufficient permissions for the dot-files or > > other files within the selected folder. Then they will be left behind > > with no warning to you. Surprisingly there are a number of files within > > your home folder to which the user does not have full access/control. > > Please be more specific. The top three layers of my dir tree contain > NO files that are not owned by me. I did not look at permissions. > > And in the many times I've used Finder to copy an entire user's > directory, I am not aware of any with such a failure. In other > words, if any failed, they were not configurations or preferences > for any applications in use. Okay, Wes, go ahead and make me look stupid! ;) I just did a cursory look and couldn't find any either. Back in 10.3.9 it was very common. They often hung out in ~/Library and its subfolders. That's when I started using rsync and other utilities (see SuperDuper! note below) to copy user folders. There is/was the possibility of someone putting an incorrectly permissioned file in your Drop Box (~/Public/Drop Box?) so that it wouldn't copy with a drag and drop. However, I'll acknowledge that sort of screw up is beyond the norm. BTW, Howard, if you don't want to use the command line, SuperDuper! will allow you to copy just user folders to a backup volume. It uses the updated rsync IIRC.
From: Wes Groleau on 25 Jun 2010 19:25 On 06-25-2010 17:18, Fred Moore wrote: > I just did a cursory look and couldn't find any either. Back in 10.3.9 > it was very common. They often hung out in ~/Library and its subfolders. I believe you. If I didn't, I'm not about to re-install 10.3 just to check on it. :-) -- Wes Groleau Teaching Tip: Take Care of your Health http://Ideas.Lang-Learn.us/russell?itemid=1465
From: Fred Moore on 26 Jun 2010 11:07
In article <fmoore-C8F947.17183125062010(a)mx01.eternal-september.org>, Fred Moore <fmoore(a)gcfn.org> wrote: > BTW, Howard, if you don't want to use the command line, SuperDuper! will > allow you to copy just user folders to a backup volume. It uses the > updated rsync IIRC. I knew there was another utility which might be useful to you, Howard. Backuplist+ <http://www.versiontracker.com/dyn/moreinfo/macosx/29671> It uses rsync, is donationware, and has a 5-star rating. It has much more flexibility than SuperDuper! for backing up just selected files. |