the end of a love affair
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From: dagmargoodboat on 20 Jun 2010 10:13 On Jun 19, 10:41 pm, "JosephKK"<quiettechb...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 22:20:39 GMT, Jan Panteltje > > > > <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > >On a sunny day (Wed, 16 Jun 2010 14:49:55 -0700) it happened John Larkin > ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in > ><5hhi161rn0bo1ibm0sb8170jubh9c8i...(a)4ax.com>: > > >>http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/washington/2010/06/obama-speech-react.... > > >>This is ***The LA Times*** > > >>John > > >Video is already on youtube: > >http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gh76oepKFc8 > > >I watched all of it, his intentions are good. > >But I still think he is getting sqeezed by the pressure. > >No mention of nuculear energy, just of isolation and windmills? > > Now for the well known quote: > "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." "The road to hell is paved with ... YOUR tax dollars." --James Arthur
From: John Larkin on 20 Jun 2010 10:41 On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:09:58 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com wrote: >On Jun 19, 11:30�am, John Larkin ><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:09:24 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com >> wrote: >> >> >> >> >...the rise in German labor costs appears to have resulted almost >> >entirely from the country's short-time work program, a program >> >instituted to help the country avoid massive layoffs during last- >> >year's recession. The result was that, even as the government helped >> >pay workers on the program, employers were still responsible for >> >coming up with a third of the salaries for employees no longer >> >laboring on the assembly lines. The result was a nominal loss in >> >productivity and a concurrent rise in labor costs." >> >> How do you help create jobs? >> >> Tax businesses. >> Use the money to pay people to waste time >> That will increase the cost of labor >> Businesses will be able to afford fewer workers >> Repeat as needed. >> >> John > >I was amused to note > o the Germans have rediscovered that subsidizing 1 million unneeded >people to do anything raises the cost of doing everything, and > o their cash-for-clunkers didn't work any better than ours. > >They seem annoyed. > >And, more generally, though Europeans started off following the Pied >Piper's economic-crisis handling lead (stimulus packages, etc) toward >the cliff, now they're having none of it, even as he continues to >preach at them that they should, and twists their arms that they must. > >IOW, the love affair in Europe's over too. But the real issue is, will we ever be able to undo the damage he has done? I suspect not. John
From: MooseFET on 20 Jun 2010 10:49 On Jun 17, 6:20 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: [...] > > I watched all of it, his intentions are good. > But I still think he is getting sqeezed by the pressure. > No mention of nuculear energy, just of isolation and windmills? Solar and wind and small head hydro and insulation installation are all things that small companies can do. Since small companies are where the jobs growth and new ideas come from, it make sense to back those ideas.
From: Jan Panteltje on 20 Jun 2010 11:03 On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:49:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened MooseFET <kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote in <f632e9e4-a606-4595-a814-9235127ab5d6(a)u17g2000prd.googlegroups.com>: >On Jun 17, 6:20 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: >[...] >> >> I watched all of it, his intentions are good. >> But I still think he is getting sqeezed by the pressure. >> No mention of nuculear energy, just of isolation and windmills? > >Solar and wind and small head hydro and insulation installation >are all things that small companies can do. Since small companies >are where the jobs growth and new ideas come from, it make sense >to back those ideas. Eh, yea, but '[small] companies' do not run without electrickity.
From: krw on 20 Jun 2010 12:44
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:41:03 -0700, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:09:58 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodboat(a)yahoo.com >wrote: > >>On Jun 19, 11:30�am, John Larkin >><jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >>> On Sat, 19 Jun 2010 06:09:24 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com >>> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >...the rise in German labor costs appears to have resulted almost >>> >entirely from the country's short-time work program, a program >>> >instituted to help the country avoid massive layoffs during last- >>> >year's recession. The result was that, even as the government helped >>> >pay workers on the program, employers were still responsible for >>> >coming up with a third of the salaries for employees no longer >>> >laboring on the assembly lines. The result was a nominal loss in >>> >productivity and a concurrent rise in labor costs." >>> >>> How do you help create jobs? >>> >>> Tax businesses. >>> Use the money to pay people to waste time >>> That will increase the cost of labor >>> Businesses will be able to afford fewer workers >>> Repeat as needed. >>> >>> John >> >>I was amused to note >> o the Germans have rediscovered that subsidizing 1 million unneeded >>people to do anything raises the cost of doing everything, and >> o their cash-for-clunkers didn't work any better than ours. >> >>They seem annoyed. >> >>And, more generally, though Europeans started off following the Pied >>Piper's economic-crisis handling lead (stimulus packages, etc) toward >>the cliff, now they're having none of it, even as he continues to >>preach at them that they should, and twists their arms that they must. >> >>IOW, the love affair in Europe's over too. > >But the real issue is, will we ever be able to undo the damage he has >done? I suspect not. No more than we've been able to undo the damage FDR did. The good news is that Obummer won't be elected three more times. |