From: dagmargoodboat on
On Jun 20, 10:41 am, John Larkin
<jjlar...(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote:
> On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:09:58 -0700 (PDT), dagmargoodb...(a)yahoo.com
> wrote:
>
> >On Jun 19, 11:30 am, John Larkin wrote:

> >> How do you help create jobs?
>
> >> Tax businesses.
> >> Use the money to pay people to waste time
> >> That will increase the cost of labor
> >> Businesses will be able to afford fewer workers
> >> Repeat as needed.
>
> >> John
>
> >I was amused to note
> > o the Germans have rediscovered that subsidizing 1 million unneeded
> >people to do anything raises the cost of doing everything, and
> > o their cash-for-clunkers didn't work any better than ours.
>
> >They seem annoyed.
>
> >And, more generally, though Europeans started off following the Pied
> >Piper's economic-crisis handling lead (stimulus packages, etc) toward
> >the cliff, now they're having none of it, even as he continues to
> >preach at them that they should, and twists their arms that they must.
>
> >IOW, the love affair in Europe's over too.
>
> But the real issue is, will we ever be able to undo the damage he has
> done?


Maybe, in a decade or two. Just slash spending and pay off what we
owe. It's possible. Wean people off entitlements and coax them into
the workforce. The question is will we, or will we let it all fail
and leave nature to take its grisly course?

Meanwhile, I'm struck with the extent to and speed at which the
world's come unraveled now that we're not there, at a time they need
us most. In Mr. Obama's parleys to show our adversaries we're not a
threat, he's shown them and everyone else we're not a reliable friend
right now, either.


> I suspect not.

We've faced worse. Besides, we have no choice. When economies stop,
armies move. We--the US--have kept a lid on that natural order since
WWII. Until now. Now, we're part of it--a perfect storm.

James Arthur
From: JosephKK on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 15:03:15 GMT, Jan Panteltje
<pNaonStpealmtje(a)yahoo.com> wrote:

>On a sunny day (Sun, 20 Jun 2010 07:49:18 -0700 (PDT)) it happened MooseFET
><kensmith(a)rahul.net> wrote in
><f632e9e4-a606-4595-a814-9235127ab5d6(a)u17g2000prd.googlegroups.com>:
>
>>On Jun 17, 6:20 am, Jan Panteltje <pNaonStpealm...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>>[...]
>>>
>>> I watched all of it, his intentions are good.
>>> But I still think he is getting sqeezed by the pressure.
>>> No mention of nuculear energy, just of isolation and windmills?
>>
>>Solar and wind and small head hydro and insulation installation
>>are all things that small companies can do. Since small companies
>>are where the jobs growth and new ideas come from, it make sense
>>to back those ideas.
>
>Eh, yea, but '[small] companies' do not run without electrickity.

Not only that, the various utilities respond to noticeable conservation
by crying to the regulators "we can't make enough profit any more, we
need a rate hike (which they usually get)".
From: Perenis on
On Sun, 20 Jun 2010 19:51:15 -0500, "krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz"
<krw(a)att.bizzzzzzzzzzzz> wrote:

>We're not stalking you, AlwaysWrong. You're everywhere, now that you're
>unemployed.

No,I am not "unemployed". I am off a few days though, so in your
retarded stalking, your assessment, as usual, is in err.