From: ps56k on

"Bob" <bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 24/02/2010 21:29, ps56k wrote:
>
>> BTW - on the Netgear site, they don't even have/list just WAP's -
>
> Did you just look at the "Home Networking" page?
>
> <http://www.netgear.com/Products/APsWirelessControllers/AccessPoints.aspx?for=Business+Networking>
> <http://www.netgear.co.uk/office_wireless_access_points.php>
>

oops - missed it for some reason -
it was over on the far right side below the Storage section -
http://www.netgear.com/Products.aspx



From: sid on
Again sorry for having been away from this for a day or so.


"ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam_me(a)interserv.com> wrote in message
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>
> "sid" <sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
> news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
> > Hi all
> > Not posted here before but there seems to be some life in this
newsgroup.
> > We have an internal wired network that DOESN'T use DHCP. All the client
> > windoze machines have their IPs set uniquely & their gateway & DNS
> > settings
> > pointing at a proxy server that gives internet access. I need to add
> > wireless capability to this network. So the access point has to be able
to
> > have a hardwired IP, gateway & DNS setting on it's wired side in the
same
> > way as all the existing clients and ideally it will have its own DHCP
> > server
> > on its wireless side. Is this possible, is there a name for this
> > particular
> > function & if so are there any recommendations for a box that will do
> > such.
> > The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
> > presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick - once you
> > set
> > its IP address for the internal network it just seems to disappear. I've
> > tried googling for W access point comparisons but the only info that
> > features in the results is speed, good looks & not obscure configuration
> > abilities.
> >
> > tia
> >
>
>
> BTW - just tell us overall, what you are trying to accomplish ???
> ie - you have an internal wired IP network,
> and are now adding a WiFi network for "customers" etc...

We have a wired network and are simply wanting to add wireless access into a
part of the network that's quite a distance from the rest of it. This will
be only for our own trusted laptop or two & ideally we'd like the wireless
to give access to internal peer to peer as well as the internet.

>
> How many internal devices ?

Maybe 2 dozen PCs max.

> What internal router is being used as the main connection ?
> What Proxy Server are you using ?

A dedicated PC running Winproxy

Thanks again


From: sid on
Sorry to have been offline for a day and thanks for your interest.

"ps56k" <pschuman_no_spam_me(a)interserv.com> wrote in message
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> how about a little white space...
>
> "sid" <sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
> news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
> > Hi all
> > Not posted here before but there seems to be some life in this
newsgroup.
> > We have an internal wired network that DOESN'T use DHCP. All the client
> > windoze machines have their IPs set uniquely & their gateway & DNS
> > settings
> > pointing at a proxy server that gives internet access. I need to add
> > wireless capability to this network. So the access point has to be able
to
> > have a hardwired IP, gateway & DNS setting on it's wired side in the
same
> > way as all the existing clients and ideally it will have its own DHCP
> > server
> > on its wireless side. Is this possible, is there a name for this
> > particular
> > function & if so are there any recommendations for a box that will do
> > such.
>
> any normal wireless access point will perform these functions.
>
> > The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
> > presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick
>
> all you needed was an "access point" not a router - which just confuses
the
> issue
>
http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGatewa
ys/WNR2000.aspx
> you do understand the difference between a "wireless router" and "wireless
> access point" ?

My networking skills are such that I wouldn't be certain of the dictionary
definitions but realise that a router is probably overkill for this
situation.

> If you wanted to just add a "wireless access point", why did the boss
> purchase a "router" ?

Cos he's the boss ;-)
This happened before he involved me to try & sort things out.

>
> > once you set
> > its IP address for the internal network it just seems to disappear.
>
> exactly how did you physically connect the "router" - which port did you
use
> ?

One of its LAN PORTS linked into the internal network.

> what does that mean - disappear ?
> you no longer see the IP address and can't ping it from the wired side ?

Yes just that. Only way to get it back is to press the reset button & lose
all the settings. One thing I am a little confused by with this box is that
there is an IP addr under basic settings & then there's another one under
LAN settings & I'm not really sure what should go where.

Thanks


From: Bob on
On 26/02/2010 11:08, sid wrote:
> Sorry to have been offline for a day and thanks for your interest.
>
> "ps56k"<pschuman_no_spam_me(a)interserv.com> wrote in message
> news:hm3epg$vpc$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
>> how about a little white space...
>>
>> "sid"<sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
>> news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
>>> Hi all
>>> Not posted here before but there seems to be some life in this
> newsgroup.
>>> We have an internal wired network that DOESN'T use DHCP. All the client
>>> windoze machines have their IPs set uniquely& their gateway& DNS
>>> settings
>>> pointing at a proxy server that gives internet access. I need to add
>>> wireless capability to this network. So the access point has to be able
> to
>>> have a hardwired IP, gateway& DNS setting on it's wired side in the
> same
>>> way as all the existing clients and ideally it will have its own DHCP
>>> server
>>> on its wireless side. Is this possible, is there a name for this
>>> particular
>>> function& if so are there any recommendations for a box that will do
>>> such.
>>
>> any normal wireless access point will perform these functions.
>>
>>> The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
>>> presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick
>>
>> all you needed was an "access point" not a router - which just confuses
> the
>> issue
>>
> http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGatewa
> ys/WNR2000.aspx
>> you do understand the difference between a "wireless router" and "wireless
>> access point" ?
>
> My networking skills are such that I wouldn't be certain of the dictionary
> definitions but realise that a router is probably overkill for this
> situation.
>
>> If you wanted to just add a "wireless access point", why did the boss
>> purchase a "router" ?
>
> Cos he's the boss ;-)
> This happened before he involved me to try& sort things out.
>
>>
>>> once you set
>>> its IP address for the internal network it just seems to disappear.
>>
>> exactly how did you physically connect the "router" - which port did you
> use
>> ?
>
> One of its LAN PORTS linked into the internal network.
>
>> what does that mean - disappear ?
>> you no longer see the IP address and can't ping it from the wired side ?
>
> Yes just that. Only way to get it back is to press the reset button& lose
> all the settings. One thing I am a little confused by with this box is that
> there is an IP addr under basic settings& then there's another one under
> LAN settings& I'm not really sure what should go where.
>
> Thanks
>
>
The IP address under basic settings will be the WAN port address. You
will need to go to the LAN configuration settings to set the LAN IP
address to one that corresponds to your network.
What OS are the laptops going to use?
If they are using Windows there is no need to use DHCP in the router or
trying to get DNS to work there. If the laptops are also used elsewhere
you can set them up to use DHCP for outside use but for your own network
you could use the alternate config settings in TCP/IP to specify IP
Address, gateway and DNS settings.
see bottom of page:-
<http://www.home-network-help.com/set-ip.html>

From: sid on

"Bob" <bob(a)invalid.invalid> wrote in message
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> On 26/02/2010 11:08, sid wrote:
> > Sorry to have been offline for a day and thanks for your interest.
> >
> > "ps56k"<pschuman_no_spam_me(a)interserv.com> wrote in message
> > news:hm3epg$vpc$1(a)news.eternal-september.org...
> >> how about a little white space...
> >>
> >> "sid"<sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
> >> news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
> >>> Hi all
> >>> Not posted here before but there seems to be some life in this
> > newsgroup.
> >>> We have an internal wired network that DOESN'T use DHCP. All the
client
> >>> windoze machines have their IPs set uniquely& their gateway& DNS
> >>> settings
> >>> pointing at a proxy server that gives internet access. I need to add
> >>> wireless capability to this network. So the access point has to be
able
> > to
> >>> have a hardwired IP, gateway& DNS setting on it's wired side in the
> > same
> >>> way as all the existing clients and ideally it will have its own DHCP
> >>> server
> >>> on its wireless side. Is this possible, is there a name for this
> >>> particular
> >>> function& if so are there any recommendations for a box that will do
> >>> such.
> >>
> >> any normal wireless access point will perform these functions.
> >>
> >>> The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
> >>> presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick
> >>
> >> all you needed was an "access point" not a router - which just
confuses
> > the
> >> issue
> >>
> >
http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGatewa
> > ys/WNR2000.aspx
> >> you do understand the difference between a "wireless router" and
"wireless
> >> access point" ?
> >
> > My networking skills are such that I wouldn't be certain of the
dictionary
> > definitions but realise that a router is probably overkill for this
> > situation.
> >
> >> If you wanted to just add a "wireless access point", why did the boss
> >> purchase a "router" ?
> >
> > Cos he's the boss ;-)
> > This happened before he involved me to try& sort things out.
> >
> >>
> >>> once you set
> >>> its IP address for the internal network it just seems to disappear.
> >>
> >> exactly how did you physically connect the "router" - which port did
you
> > use
> >> ?
> >
> > One of its LAN PORTS linked into the internal network.
> >
> >> what does that mean - disappear ?
> >> you no longer see the IP address and can't ping it from the wired side
?
> >
> > Yes just that. Only way to get it back is to press the reset button&
lose
> > all the settings. One thing I am a little confused by with this box is
that
> > there is an IP addr under basic settings& then there's another one
under
> > LAN settings& I'm not really sure what should go where.
> >
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> The IP address under basic settings will be the WAN port address. You
> will need to go to the LAN configuration settings to set the LAN IP
> address to one that corresponds to your network.

Ok so since I'm not using the WAN skt then this setting shouldn't matter?

> What OS are the laptops going to use?

XP

> If they are using Windows there is no need to use DHCP in the router or
> trying to get DNS to work there. If the laptops are also used elsewhere
> you can set them up to use DHCP for outside use but for your own network
> you could use the alternate config settings in TCP/IP to specify IP
> Address, gateway and DNS settings.

Yes we'd prefer that the laptops can just hook in using DHCP as the users
aren't likely to be savvy enough to fiddle around changing TCP/IP settings.
Thanks


> see bottom of page:-
> <http://www.home-network-help.com/set-ip.html>
>