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From: ps56k on 24 Feb 2010 09:57
how about a little white space...

"sid" <sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
> Hi all
> Not posted here before but there seems to be some life in this newsgroup.
> We have an internal wired network that DOESN'T use DHCP. All the client
> windoze machines have their IPs set uniquely & their gateway & DNS
> settings
> pointing at a proxy server that gives internet access. I need to add
> wireless capability to this network. So the access point has to be able to
> have a hardwired IP, gateway & DNS setting on it's wired side in the same
> way as all the existing clients and ideally it will have its own DHCP
> server
> on its wireless side. Is this possible, is there a name for this
> particular
> function & if so are there any recommendations for a box that will do
> such.

any normal wireless access point will perform these functions.

> The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
> presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick

all you needed was an "access point" not a router - which just confuses the
issue
http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGateways/WNR2000.aspx
you do understand the difference between a "wireless router" and "wireless
access point" ?
If you wanted to just add a "wireless access point", why did the boss
purchase a "router" ?

> once you set
> its IP address for the internal network it just seems to disappear.

exactly how did you physically connect the "router" - which port did you use
?
what does that mean - disappear ?
you no longer see the IP address and can't ping it from the wired side ?

> I've
> tried googling for wireless access point comparisons but the only info
> that
> features in the results is speed, good looks & not obscure configuration
> abilities.
>



From: Char Jackson on 24 Feb 2010 11:48
On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:57:46 -0600, "ps56k"
<pschuman_no_spam_me(a)interserv.com> wrote:

>"sid" <sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
>news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
>
>> The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
>> presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick
>
>all you needed was an "access point" not a router - which just confuses the
>issue
>http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGateways/WNR2000.aspx
>you do understand the difference between a "wireless router" and "wireless
>access point" ?
>If you wanted to just add a "wireless access point", why did the boss
>purchase a "router" ?

Many wireless routers are less expensive than access points, so maybe
there were budget considerations in addition to some general
confusion. As we know, wireless routers can easily be configured as
access points, (but the reverse isn't true.)

From: ps56k on 24 Feb 2010 16:29

"Char Jackson" <none(a)none.invalid> wrote in message
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> On Wed, 24 Feb 2010 08:57:46 -0600, "ps56k"
> <pschuman_no_spam_me(a)interserv.com> wrote:
>
>>"sid" <sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
>>news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
>>
>>> The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
>>> presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick
>>
>>all you needed was an "access point" not a router - which just confuses
>>the
>>issue
>>http://www.netgear.com/Products/RoutersandGateways/WirelessNRoutersandGateways/WNR2000.aspx
>>you do understand the difference between a "wireless router" and "wireless
>>access point" ?
>>If you wanted to just add a "wireless access point", why did the boss
>>purchase a "router" ?
>
> Many wireless routers are less expensive than access points, so maybe
> there were budget considerations in addition to some general
> confusion. As we know, wireless routers can easily be configured as
> access points, (but the reverse isn't true.)

less expensive - yeah... just noticed that in comparing this Netgear router
to a WAP54G
BTW - on the Netgear site, they don't even have/list just WAP's -


>


From: ps56k on 24 Feb 2010 16:36

"sid" <sid(a)here.there.com> wrote in message
news:68ydnXcVio0LuhjWnZ2dnUVZ8lCdnZ2d(a)pipex.net...
> Hi all
> Not posted here before but there seems to be some life in this newsgroup.
> We have an internal wired network that DOESN'T use DHCP. All the client
> windoze machines have their IPs set uniquely & their gateway & DNS
> settings
> pointing at a proxy server that gives internet access. I need to add
> wireless capability to this network. So the access point has to be able to
> have a hardwired IP, gateway & DNS setting on it's wired side in the same
> way as all the existing clients and ideally it will have its own DHCP
> server
> on its wireless side. Is this possible, is there a name for this
> particular
> function & if so are there any recommendations for a box that will do
> such.
> The boss has already wasted money on a wnr2000 Netgear router that,
> presumably because it's a router doesn't seem to do the trick - once you
> set
> its IP address for the internal network it just seems to disappear. I've
> tried googling for W access point comparisons but the only info that
> features in the results is speed, good looks & not obscure configuration
> abilities.
>
> tia
>


BTW - just tell us overall, what you are trying to accomplish ???
ie - you have an internal wired IP network,
and are now adding a WiFi network for "customers" etc...

How many internal devices ?
What internal router is being used as the main connection ?
What Proxy Server are you using ?
--

At one point, we initially had a static IP network to tell which users were
doing what.
But, as time went on, we dropped that, went with DHCP for all computers,
but left all the "devices" as static - so we could always connect directly
to them
(servers, switches, routers, disk array, printers, plotters, etc)
We also had the MS Proxy server for browser...
Oh yeah - this was across about 30 branch locations around the country...



From: Bob on 25 Feb 2010 04:01
On 24/02/2010 21:29, ps56k wrote:

> BTW - on the Netgear site, they don't even have/list just WAP's -

Did you just look at the "Home Networking" page?

<http://www.netgear.com/Products/APsWirelessControllers/AccessPoints.aspx?for=Business+Networking>
<http://www.netgear.co.uk/office_wireless_access_points.php>

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