From: Bret Cahill on
> >> >> >>electronics is
> >> >> >> accessible and fun.
>
> >> >> >We need a motor - generator that is efficient over a broad rpm range
> >> >> >and doesn't require rare earth elements.
>
> >> >> Why? Where would you get the batteries to run it?
>
> >> >http://www.technologyreview.com/energy/23877/?a=f
>
> >> Cool. They do a press release a week after they get a grant, about the
> >> thing they hope they can invent.
> >Were it not for massive government funding combustion gas turbines
> >would never have been developed, certainly not in a timely fashion.
>
> Oh really? There was a lot of private enterprise developing gas
> turbines and a great deal of competition within the industry.

Just no commercial success stories until _after_ the massive gummint
funding.

> The
> physical limits of early implementations were understood and were
> known to be resolvable by using more esoteric materials.

Which only happened _after_ massive gummint spending.

> >Eventually they'll develop a cost effective battery or they'll prove
> >that it's impossible.
>
> We already know the dead ends, The fundamental, physical limits.
>
> >The funding speeds things up.
>
> Nope.

Yup.


Bret Cahill


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