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From: krw on 16 Nov 2009 19:00 On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 08:58:29 -0800, John Larkin <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote: >On Mon, 16 Nov 2009 07:36:41 -0800 (PST), Bret Cahill ><BretCahill(a)aol.com> wrote: > >>> >> >>>>The price of fuel hadn't gone over $5/gallon back then. >>> >>> >> >>> Current US average at the pump is about $2.60. >>> >>> >> >>The price of fuel should include the true costs of getting the raw >>> >> >>material >>> >> >>(crude oil) >>> >>> >> > If I'm not paying for the cost of the crude oil when I buy gas, who >>> >> > is? >>> >>> >> All people who pay taxes of any kind, and our future generations who will >>> >> be paying the debt we are accumulating. >>> >>> Nobody will pay the debt. We'll just print money. >> >>That's why fuel will be $5/gallon again next year and $10/gallon in 2 >>years. >> >>> >Not that it's an immediate concern but the real cost is the climate. >>> >>> >The NY Times recently ran an article claiming that now most economists >>> >agree that it will be more expensive for society to ignore AGW than to >>> >do something about it. >> >>> The "most economists agree" bit is hilarious. >> >>They were including the shills at Hoover and the Chicago School. >> >>> And even if they did >>> agree, they'd usually be wrong. >> >>I'ld like to see the sample myself. >> >>> You guys need something productive to do. All this worrying about the >>> future is making you neurotic. >> >>Lots of opportunities in technical fields especially materials science >>and heat transfer. >> >>And in hauling coal. >> >> >>Bret Cahill >> > >Given that you like to post to an electronics group, you might >consider learning a little about electronics. Unlike neurotic fretting >about climate and energy issues that you can't control, electronics is >accessible and fun. But like Slowman he can't do, only whine.
From: Paul E. Schoen on 17 Nov 2009 01:47 "John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message news:shv3g59tsdd4r36braf5m2jmi25evb4iie(a)4ax.com... > > What a downer! Design some electronics. You'll feel better. Yes, we should bury our heads in silicon crystals like Ostriches. And reality will take a big bite out of our butts. Maybe 2012 will be the end. 12/12/12 to be precise. Divide that by two and you get 6/6/6. Paul
From: John Larkin on 17 Nov 2009 11:55 On Tue, 17 Nov 2009 01:47:46 -0500, "Paul E. Schoen" <paul(a)peschoen.com> wrote: > >"John Larkin" <jjlarkin(a)highNOTlandTHIStechnologyPART.com> wrote in message >news:shv3g59tsdd4r36braf5m2jmi25evb4iie(a)4ax.com... >> >> What a downer! Design some electronics. You'll feel better. > >Yes, we should bury our heads in silicon crystals like Ostriches. And >reality will take a big bite out of our butts. > >Maybe 2012 will be the end. 12/12/12 to be precise. Divide that by two and >you get 6/6/6. > >Paul > So eat, drink, and be merry. John
From: Bret Cahill on 17 Nov 2009 18:53 > >> >> >>>>The price of fuel hadn't gone over $5/gallon back then. > > >> >> >>> Current US average at the pump is about $2.60. > > >> >> >>The price of fuel should include the true costs of getting the raw > >> >> >>material > >> >> >>(crude oil) > > >> >> > If I'm not paying for the cost of the crude oil when I buy gas, who > >> >> > is? > > >> >> All people who pay taxes of any kind, and our future generations who will > >> >> be paying the debt we are accumulating. > > >> Nobody will pay the debt. We'll just print money. > > >That's why fuel will be $5/gallon again next year and $10/gallon in 2 > >years. > > >> >Not that it's an immediate concern but the real cost is the climate. > > >> >The NY Times recently ran an article claiming that now most economists > >> >agree that it will be more expensive for society to ignore AGW than to > >> >do something about it. > > >> The "most economists agree" bit is hilarious. > > >They were including the shills at Hoover and the Chicago School. > > >> And even if they did > >> agree, they'd usually be wrong. > > >I'ld like to see the sample myself. > > >> You guys need something productive to do. All this worrying about the > >> future is making you neurotic. > > >Lots of opportunities in technical fields especially materials science > >and heat transfer. > > >And in hauling coal. > > >Bret Cahill > > Given that you like to post to an electronics group, you might > consider learning a little about electronics. Unlike neurotic fretting > about climate and energy issues that you can't control, electronics is > accessible and fun. We need a motor - generator that is efficient over a broad rpm range and doesn't require rare earth elements. Bret Cahill
From: Bret Cahill on 17 Nov 2009 19:05
> And US politicians, even the greenest Democrats, won't dare suggest > increasing the tax on gas. Indeed, they complain about oil company > profits raising the price of gas. Low fuel taxes merely increases the shock of price increases onto the individual. For some like the EE with the wheel motor retro kit, it creates great opportunities. For others it might not be so good. When the price of fuel soars in Europe, it's like a circuit with current limiting resistors. It isn't such a shock as the price of fuel is already high and they are already fuel efficient and already have public transportation. Bret Cahill |