From: Walter Banks on


Muzza wrote:

> I can assure you that I am on very solid ground with all 3 companies
> whose products I link to, promote or feature on my website

Does that mean you are using Keil's logo with ARM's permission?

w..

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From: Walter Banks on


Didi wrote:
>
> Hi Walter,
> the subject line may be misleading but we have seen a lot
> less meaningful ones. Dishonest - I am not sure, what if
> it had been "Intel C ... whatever site updated". He appears
> to just indicate he is using some sort of compiler
> people are supposed to know about (I don't).
> But then this is in your line of business and not in mine
> so I may simply be missing something.
>
> Dimiter

The issue is the implication that it was a site owned by Keil
that was updated. Reporting that is no problem, it is not
Keil's site but a site that makes products that uses Keil's
development tools. It is not clear that the op understands
the second issue of permissible use of tradmarks, logos and
copyrights. It may be that it is just a naive choice of words
on his thread subject or not.

w..

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From: Muzza on
On Jul 9, 11:31 pm, Walter Banks <wal...(a)bytecraft.com> wrote:
> Muzza wrote:
> > I can assure you that I am on very solid ground with all 3 companies
> > whose products I link to, promote or feature on my website
>
> Does that mean you are using Keil's logo with ARM's permission?
>
> w..
>
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Hi Walter,

No. My usage agreement predates whatever structural re-organization
that involved ARM with Keil. As far as I'm currently aware, I'm not
the least bit exposed. You're welcome to raise it with whom ever,
should you wish.

I'm not particularly attached to the Keil C51 logo, as it's display
does nothing for my non-business cause. How this is of anyone else's
business, though, is a total mystery to me.

I have noted a sad tendency for some community members to childishly
indulge in licence and permission badgering. I've observed that it
happens quite a lot. You'll have a devil of a job convincing me that
Chris' motivation concerns anything other than throwing his (light)
weight around. I suppose it makes him feel powerful to intimidate
others, but I can't really see the point of it myself.

Thanks for your welcome interest, Walter. I hope that I've managed to
satisfy your concerns.

Regards,
Murray R. Van Luyn.
From: cbarn24050 on
On Jul 9, 11:13 am, Muzza <vanlu...(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 3:24 am, "cbarn24...(a)aol.com" <cbarn24...(a)aol.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > On Jul 7, 1:40 pm, "Murray R. Van Luyn" <REMOVE.vanlu...(a)iinet.net.au>
> > wrote:
>
> > > <cbarn24...(a)aol.com> wrote in message
>
> > >news:96241fde-0d12-4aee-a970-038ea36aaf9e(a)j8g2000yqd.googlegroups.com....
> > > On Jul 5, 5:19 pm, d_s_klein <d_s_kl...(a)yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > > > On Jul 4, 6:12 pm, "Murray R. Van Luyn" <REMOVE.vanlu...(a)iinet.net.au>
> > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > Hi,
>
> > > > > Into 8051 derived controllers and coding with Keil C51? Save countless
> > > > > development hours by basing your applications on my proven,
> > > > > user-friendly
> > > > > foundation Keil C source code modules. Find them here:
>
> > > > >http://members.iinet.net.au/~vanluynm/
>
> > > > > Please take advantage of the site's safe bookmarking mechanism and come
> > > > > back
> > > > > often. New content is currently being added on a very regular basis.
>
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Murray R. Van Luyn.
>
> > > > There is a commercial site (pay me to download my software) at the end
> > > > of that link - your post is the textbook definition of SPAM.
>
> > > > For the rest of the world, there is better software out there FOR
> > > > FREE!
>
> > > > RK
>
> > > Very true, I had a quick look at the serial module and it's joke code..
> > > Has no value whatever.
>
> > > Isn't it odd that such empty criticism always comes from anonymous, with no
> > > worthy contribution of their own?
>
> > Nothing anonymous about me squire, if you cant email me its because
> > your hiding behind an anonymous address yourself. Try using the
> > address your isp gave you.
>
> > I think my contribution was posative, aside from maybe saving someone
> > time and money it should have spurned you on to look again at your
> > effort. Sadly it looks like one out of two.
>
> > > Okay cbarn24050, please feel free to impress us all with your own
> > > significant and worthwhile contributions to the embedded community.
>
> > Well what would impress you?
>
> > > Can't do it? Why ever not, I wonder?
>
> > Can do have done, and yourself?
>
> > > Regards,
> > > Murray R. Van Luyn.- Hide quoted text -
>
> > > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -
>
> > - Show quoted text -
>
> hahahaha.
>
> Scurry away little cockroach. The light might shine on you!

I hope some light shone on you from your post 2 days ago, man your
some expert!!

http://www.8052.com/forum/read/176494


>
> Regards,
> Murray R. Van Luyn.- Hide quoted text -
>
> - Show quoted text -

From: Muzza on
On Jul 10, 12:14 am, Muzza <vanlu...(a)iinet.net.au> wrote:
> On Jul 9, 11:31 pm, Walter Banks <wal...(a)bytecraft.com> wrote:
>
> > Muzza wrote:
> > > I can assure you that I am on very solid ground with all 3 companies
> > > whose products I link to, promote or feature on my website
>
> > Does that mean you are using Keil's logo with ARM's permission?
>
> > w..
>
> > --- news://freenews.netfront.net/ - complaints: n...(a)netfront.net ---
>
> Hi Walter,
>
> No. My usage agreement predates whatever structural re-organization
> that involved ARM with Keil. As far as I'm currently aware, I'm not
> the least bit exposed. You're welcome to raise it with whom ever,
> should you wish.
>
> I'm not particularly attached to the Keil C51 logo, as it's display
> does nothing for my non-business cause. How this is of anyone else's
> business, though, is a total mystery to me.
>
> I have noted a sad tendency for some community members to childishly
> indulge in licence and permission badgering. I've observed that it
> happens quite a lot. You'll have a devil of a job convincing me that
> Chris' motivation concerns anything other than throwing his (light)
> weight around. I suppose it makes him feel powerful to intimidate
> others, but I can't really see the point of it myself.
>
> Thanks for your welcome interest, Walter. I hope that I've managed to
> satisfy your concerns.
>
> Regards,
> Murray R. Van Luyn.

Walter,

Nah, on second thoughts Walter, your interest isn't all that welcome.
You're no better than bully-boy Chris, and your motivation is just as
self-indulgent. What I do and don't do is none of your business.

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