From: Raymond Yohros on
On Jul 5, 6:24 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
> On 7/5/10 5:57 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
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> > On Jul 5, 5:14 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> >> ScienceShot: Planck Satellite's First View of Universe
> >> A new view of the microwave radiation of the universe has been captured
> >> by the Planck satellite.
>
> >>http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/07/scienceshot-planck-sate....
>
> > i've been waiting for this mission for more than 12 years
> > this is the satellite that will take the best picture of the
> > early universe. plasma's displacement sequence with detail
> > of color and resolution.
>
> > with this data there will be no chance of error.
> > it will wipe out all the bugs about "cold" dark matter and
> > bring the true rate of spacetime's expansion to our perception.
>
> > neutrino science should go in contrast with this most
> > extraordinary observation.
>
> > r.y
>
>    The cold dark matter, is here to stay... Many sources of
>    data, including the WMAP data.
>

o.k, this is something i do not understand
is the wimp the only kind of cold dark matter?

r.y
From: Benj on
On Jul 5, 7:24 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>    The cold dark matter, is here to stay... Many sources of
>    data, including the WMAP data.

Once again "wormley" and Gisse and everybody is all gaga over some
bogus data supporting an even more bogus theory (Big Bang) reported in
the "popular" science press. Yeah, that's the place to get you
scientific breakthroughs: ScienceNow.

Fact is there was no "Big Bang". It's all speculation upon a mistake.
Cosmic background does not provide proof of anything when you have not
a clue where it's coming from. The ignorance of the so-called
"learned" is absolutely astounding. And even worse there are those who
are fully aware of this truth but chose to cover it all up for their
own political reasons.

But have no fear. I've seen this so many times in the past. One day
"science" will turn on a dime. Big Bang will be discredited, and
amazingly all those who argued so mightily for it's existence will
suddenly all be denying with one breath that they EVER did such a
thing!

Science (and that includes ScienceNow) is a huge mess and fraud run by
hypocrites.
You heard it first here.

From: Raymond Yohros on
On Jul 5, 6:47 pm, Benj <bjac...(a)iwaynet.net> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 7:24 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
> >    The cold dark matter, is here to stay... Many sources of
> >    data, including the WMAP data.
>
> Once again "wormley" and Gisse and everybody is all gaga over some
> bogus data supporting an even more bogus theory (Big Bang) reported in
> the "popular" science press. Yeah, that's the place to get you
> scientific breakthroughs: ScienceNow.
>
> Fact is there was no "Big Bang". It's all speculation upon a mistake.
> Cosmic background does not provide proof of anything when you have not
> a clue where it's coming from. The ignorance of the so-called
> "learned" is absolutely astounding. And even worse there are those who
> are fully aware of this truth but chose to cover it all up for their
> own political reasons.
>
> But have no fear. I've seen this so many times in the past. One day
> "science" will turn on a dime. Big Bang will be discredited, and
> amazingly all those who argued so mightily for it's existence will
> suddenly all be denying with one breath that they EVER did such a
> thing!
>
> Science (and that includes ScienceNow) is a huge mess and fraud run by
> hypocrites.
> You heard it first here.
>

they are both right and you are not.
of course there was a big bang.
the problem is the cold dark matter
what is its true nature?
can it be something else?

r.y

From: Raymond Yohros on
On Jul 5, 6:38 pm, Raymond Yohros <b...(a)birdband.net> wrote:
> On Jul 5, 6:24 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
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> > On 7/5/10 5:57 PM, Raymond Yohros wrote:
>
> > > On Jul 5, 5:14 pm, Sam Wormley<sworml...(a)gmail.com>  wrote:
> > >> ScienceShot: Planck Satellite's First View of Universe
> > >> A new view of the microwave radiation of the universe has been captured
> > >> by the Planck satellite.
>
> > >>http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/07/scienceshot-planck-sate....
>
> > > i've been waiting for this mission for more than 12 years
> > > this is the satellite that will take the best picture of the
> > > early universe. plasma's displacement sequence with detail
> > > of color and resolution.
>
> > > with this data there will be no chance of error.
> > > it will wipe out all the bugs about "cold" dark matter and
> > > bring the true rate of spacetime's expansion to our perception.
>
> > > neutrino science should go in contrast with this most
> > > extraordinary observation.
>
> > > r.y
>
> >    The cold dark matter, is here to stay... Many sources of
> >    data, including the WMAP data.
>
> o.k, this is something i do not understand
> is the wimp the only kind of cold dark matter?
>

i'm talking about particles (not machos or big objects)
yes there are axions also but how real are this things
and how low will it take to discover them.

personally, i think its a distraction from neutrino science

r.y
From: eric gisse on
Raymond Yohros wrote:

> On Jul 5, 6:19 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> Raymond Yohros wrote:
>> > On Jul 5, 5:14 pm, Sam Wormley <sworml...(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> ScienceShot: Planck Satellite's First View of Universe
>> >> A new view of the microwave radiation of the universe has been
>> >> captured by the Planck satellite.
>>
>> >>http://news.sciencemag.org/sciencenow/2010/07/scienceshot-planck-
sate...
>>
>> > i've been waiting for this mission for more than 12 years
>>
>> Have you heard of WMAP?
>>
>> > this is the satellite that will take the best picture of the
>> > early universe. plasma's displacement sequence with detail
>> > of color and resolution.
>>
>> > with this data there will be no chance of error.
>> > it will wipe out all the bugs about "cold" dark matter and
>> > bring the true rate of spacetime's expansion to our perception.
>>
>> I find it rather hard to believe Planck is going to contradict the
>> {1,3,5,7} year WMAP data releases that support dark matter.
>>
>
> the level of detail is incomplete

You are guessing.

The WMAP survey is all-sky, just at a smaller range of frequencies than
Planck. It is not 'incomplete' in any meaningful sense of the word.

> and that gives alot of people
> chance to speculate about this matters "specialy about COLD dark
> matter"

The 'speculation' is the 6 parameter fit to the acoustic peak spectrum.

> there should be alot of dark matter but what types and
> how is truly spread out in spacetime is the issue!

Not a question either WMAP or Planck can answer.

>
> regards
> r.y