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From: eric gisse on 5 Jul 2010 23:04 Raymond Yohros wrote: > On Jul 5, 7:51 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Raymond Yohros wrote: >> he level of detail is incomplete >> >> You are guessing. >> >> The WMAP survey is all-sky, just at a smaller range of frequencies than >> Planck. It is not 'incomplete' in any meaningful sense of the word. >> > > that smaller range makes a very big difference! Not as big as you'd think. I imagine we'd get to see more detail about the tail of the 3rd acoustic peak, but that'll just refine the theories that we have. > the planck explorer took a long time to build because > of having this level of detail. Have you read about WMAP yet? The last (and first) purpose-built satellite without much for precision was COBE. > >> > and that gives alot of people >> > chance to speculate about this matters "specialy about COLD dark >> > matter" >> >> The 'speculation' is the 6 parameter fit to the acoustic peak spectrum. >> > > please feel free to explain what you mean? The guesses aren't wild, and the fits are to data. > >> >> > there should be alot of dark matter but what types and >> > how is truly spread out in spacetime is the issue! >> >> Not a question either WMAP or Planck can answer. >> > > maybe not specifically but > oh yeah, GENERALLY No. All they can discern is possible imprinting on the CMB. > > tons of the most precious data will come > out of this baby. this data will make a > model that will destroy any theory that > does not fit in reality > > from the bb, black holes > quasars and all the way up to galactic clusters > > the CBR is like the signature of creation > it is the sound of sounds > > r.y
From: Raymond Yohros on 5 Jul 2010 23:22 On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Raymond Yohros wrote: > > On Jul 5, 7:51 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Raymond Yohros wrote: > >> he level of detail is incomplete > > >> You are guessing. > > >> The WMAP survey is all-sky, just at a smaller range of frequencies than > >> Planck. It is not 'incomplete' in any meaningful sense of the word. > > > that smaller range makes a very big difference! > > Not as big as you'd think. I imagine we'd get to see more detail about the > tail of the 3rd acoustic peak, but that'll just refine the theories that we > have. > > > the planck explorer took a long time to build because > > of having this level of detail. > > Have you read about WMAP yet? The last (and first) purpose-built satellite > without much for precision was COBE. > COBE was like an 8bit picture. very cute but its main objective was not presition. i didn't read anything on WMAP Jet! i am very faithful for what the planck explorer its going to say. its probably going to be very similar. > > > >> > and that gives alot of people > >> > chance to speculate about this matters "specialy about COLD dark > >> > matter" > > >> The 'speculation' is the 6 parameter fit to the acoustic peak spectrum.. > > > please feel free to explain what you mean? > > The guesses aren't wild, and the fits are to data. > still dont understand what you mean? > > > >> > there should be alot of dark matter but what types and > >> > how is truly spread out in spacetime is the issue! > > >> Not a question either WMAP or Planck can answer. > > > maybe not specifically but > > oh yeah, GENERALLY > > No. All they can discern is possible imprinting on the CMB. > so, is not that significant? just like a seed can make up a tree spacetime began with the big bang > > > tons of the most precious data will come > > out of this baby. this data will make a > > model that will destroy any theory that > > does not fit in reality > > > from the bb, black holes > > quasars and all the way up to galactic clusters > > > the CBR is like the signature of creation > > it is the sound of sounds > > > r.y
From: eric gisse on 6 Jul 2010 01:34 Raymond Yohros wrote: > On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> Raymond Yohros wrote: >> > On Jul 5, 7:51 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Raymond Yohros wrote: >> >> he level of detail is incomplete >> >> >> You are guessing. >> >> >> The WMAP survey is all-sky, just at a smaller range of frequencies >> >> than Planck. It is not 'incomplete' in any meaningful sense of the >> >> word. >> >> > that smaller range makes a very big difference! >> >> Not as big as you'd think. I imagine we'd get to see more detail about >> the tail of the 3rd acoustic peak, but that'll just refine the theories >> that we have. >> >> > the planck explorer took a long time to build because >> > of having this level of detail. >> >> Have you read about WMAP yet? The last (and first) purpose-built >> satellite without much for precision was COBE. >> > > COBE was like an 8bit picture. very cute but its main > objective was not presition. > > i didn't read anything on WMAP Jet! Thus rendering your opinion on the subject completely irrelevant. [snip rest, unread]
From: Raymond Yohros on 6 Jul 2010 12:01 On Jul 5, 9:56 pm, "J. Clarke" <jclarke.use...(a)cox.net> wrote: > > well you will probably jump on me on this > > one but i think that they can be BH > > spinning out of existence? > > Why would they not be detected? > Hint--black holes have side effects. yes that is what i think. side effects in spacetime. r.y
From: Raymond Yohros on 6 Jul 2010 12:07
On Jul 6, 12:34 am, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Raymond Yohros wrote: > > On Jul 5, 10:04 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> Raymond Yohros wrote: > >> > On Jul 5, 7:51 pm, eric gisse <jowr.pi.nos...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Raymond Yohros wrote: > >> >> he level of detail is incomplete > > >> >> You are guessing. > > >> >> The WMAP survey is all-sky, just at a smaller range of frequencies > >> >> than Planck. It is not 'incomplete' in any meaningful sense of the > >> >> word. > > >> > that smaller range makes a very big difference! > > >> Not as big as you'd think. I imagine we'd get to see more detail about > >> the tail of the 3rd acoustic peak, but that'll just refine the theories > >> that we have. > > >> > the planck explorer took a long time to build because > >> > of having this level of detail. > > >> Have you read about WMAP yet? The last (and first) purpose-built > >> satellite without much for precision was COBE. > > > COBE was like an 8bit picture. very cute but its main > > objective was not presition. > > > i didn't read anything on WMAP Jet! > > Thus rendering your opinion on the subject completely irrelevant. > i told you i will prefere to wait for the planck explorer that to spoil the fun by watching the preview of the WMAP. you are very grompi r.y |