From: Paul E Condon on
On 20100411_005504, Celejar wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 22:41:57 -0600
> Paul E Condon <pecondon(a)mesanetworks.net> wrote:
>
> ...
>
> > So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
> > make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
> > for a USB solution. What other options are there for external HD?
>
> I'm sorry, I don't really know much about this stuff. I'm just
> repeating what I've heard (and seen, in my very limited experience).
>
> Celejar

Your comment was/is helpful to me. Thanks. Please don't drop off this
thread because I'm sometimes too terse. Following some links from article
you cited lead me to some threads on SATA and eSATA, so I am not all at
my wits end now. But it is well past my bed time.

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From: Stan Hoeppner on
Paul E Condon put forth on 4/10/2010 11:41 PM:

> So, the fact that my WD drives don't play well with S.M.A.R.T doesn't
> make them special, and I should not spend much, if any, time looking
> for a USB solution. What other options are there for external HD?

You're got 3 USB hard drives already, and you're throwing them out and
looking for another solution, just because they don't do S.M.A.R.T? If
neither USB nor firewire do smart, you choices are very limited.

The only other realistic option I know of is eSATA, but a quick scan of
Newegg shows only 6 devices total, 2 DVR expander drives and 4 eSATA RAID
enclosures. I have no idea if the DVR expander drives will work with a
standard PC setup. They "should". The two DVR drives are both 1TB and both
just under $130 USD, one Iomega and one Western Digital:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822186175
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822136384

Are you planning on connecting this drive to a laptop or desktop? To
multiple computers or just one computer?

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From: Andrei Popescu on
On Sat,10.Apr.10, 16:24:45, Paul E Condon wrote:

> The errors that I am experiencing are all similar. The first
> indication of a problem is a message from the kernel (I think). An
> example is:
>
> kernel: [78454.939948] journal commit I/O error

[...]

> When this happens, all the USB drives (3 of them) disappear from
> /dev/disks/by-label (they are all labeled by me). I have not

Just a long shot, bun since you are connecting 3 USB drives to the same
computer you might experience power issues. If you connect only one
drive do you get the same issues? Or you could try a powered USB hub if
you have one.

Regards,
Andrei
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From: Celejar on
On Sat, 10 Apr 2010 23:48:51 -0600
Paul E Condon <pecondon(a)mesanetworks.net> wrote:

....

> Your comment was/is helpful to me. Thanks. Please don't drop off this
> thread because I'm sometimes too terse. Following some links from article

No offense taken - I just didn't want you to get your expectations up
of the likelihood of much more in the way of any helpful contributions
to this thread from me ;)

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From: Ron Johnson on
On 2010-04-08 19:44, Paul E Condon wrote:
> I want to use the low cost high capacity hard drives that are
> for sale in places like Best Buy and Costco. I have put ext3 on
> several of them and started experimenting. The results so far
> are puzzling.
>

http://smartmontools.sourceforge.net/faq.html#testinghelp
As for USB and FireWire (IEEE 1394) disks and tape drives,
the news is not good. They appear to the operating system
as SCSI devices but their implementations do not usually
support those SCSI commands needed by smartmontools.

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