From: Steve Firth on
chris <ithinkiam(a)gmail.com> wrote:

> How does it compare to other 'solutions'?

Well it costs infinitely more than Joomla and does the same job only not
as well as Joomla does it. Yet another Sharepoint type CMS AFAIKS.

TBH for what is needed for a school[1] Joomla has it all at an
attractive price �0.00.

[1] Or even a fairly large business.
From: Geoff Berrow on
On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:10:01 +0000, chris <ithinkiam(a)gmail.com> wrote:

>Our local school is being sold on using Adobe Contribute for setting-up
>and managing their website. I'd never heard of it before this evening,
>but I'm worried it's not the best use of limited education budgets.
>Especially considering the yearly, per seat licencing costs. Does anyone
>have any experience of it as a user or developer and care to comment?
>How does it compare to other 'solutions'?

Well there is a philosophy among local authorities that if something
is free it can't be any good. So vast sums of money are spent with
Microsoft etc when there are perfectly viable alternatives available
for free.

CMSs are so well developed these days (Drupal, Joomla) it would take a
pretty compelling argument to make me want to spend good money on
achieving the same thing
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From: Chris Ridd on
On 2010-02-04 23:38:24 +0000, Geoff Berrow said:

> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:10:01 +0000, chris <ithinkiam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Our local school is being sold on using Adobe Contribute for setting-up
>> and managing their website. I'd never heard of it before this evening,
>> but I'm worried it's not the best use of limited education budgets.
>> Especially considering the yearly, per seat licencing costs. Does anyone
>> have any experience of it as a user or developer and care to comment?
>> How does it compare to other 'solutions'?
>
> Well there is a philosophy among local authorities that if something
> is free it can't be any good. So vast sums of money are spent with
> Microsoft etc when there are perfectly viable alternatives available
> for free.
>
> CMSs are so well developed these days (Drupal, Joomla) it would take a
> pretty compelling argument to make me want to spend good money on
> achieving the same thing

The websites for our local schools are all hosted on our local
education authority's server. There might be significant limits on what
your school can run on a shared server.

Try looking up the IP addresses for a couple of your local schools and
see if they resolve to the same machine :-) Use the Lookup tab in
Network Utility.app to do this.
--
Chris

From: chris on
On 05/02/2010 07:40, Chris Ridd wrote:
> On 2010-02-04 23:38:24 +0000, Geoff Berrow said:
>
>> On Thu, 04 Feb 2010 23:10:01 +0000, chris <ithinkiam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Our local school is being sold on using Adobe Contribute for setting-up
>>> and managing their website. I'd never heard of it before this evening,
>>> but I'm worried it's not the best use of limited education budgets.
>>> Especially considering the yearly, per seat licencing costs. Does anyone
>>> have any experience of it as a user or developer and care to comment?
>>> How does it compare to other 'solutions'?
>>
>> Well there is a philosophy among local authorities that if something
>> is free it can't be any good. So vast sums of money are spent with
>> Microsoft etc when there are perfectly viable alternatives available
>> for free.
>>
>> CMSs are so well developed these days (Drupal, Joomla) it would take a
>> pretty compelling argument to make me want to spend good money on
>> achieving the same thing
>
> The websites for our local schools are all hosted on our local education
> authority's server. There might be significant limits on what your
> school can run on a shared server.

Good point.

> Try looking up the IP addresses for a couple of your local schools and
> see if they resolve to the same machine :-) Use the Lookup tab in
> Network Utility.app to do this.

Strangely, that's not working. It always resolves to my local DNS or
nameserver. Running dig in terminal works fine though.

Turns out that the vast majority are run from the same server :(
Thanks for the pointer.

I still think it's a huge waste of money to get schools to pay for
somthing like Contribute on a per-seat basis when once the website has
been created any cheap/free tool can be used to update it.

Would something like drupal or joomla really be that much of a drain on
resources?
From: chris on
On 04/02/2010 23:36, Steve Firth wrote:
> chris<ithinkiam(a)gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> How does it compare to other 'solutions'?
>
> Well it costs infinitely more than Joomla and does the same job only not
> as well as Joomla does it. Yet another Sharepoint type CMS AFAIKS.
>
> TBH for what is needed for a school[1] Joomla has it all at an
> attractive price �0.00.

I'd say so too. Do you have any experience of implementing Joomla or
similar? I'd like to get better picture before raising this further with
the school/council.

I'll probably have a go installing it on a VM at home this weekend.