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From: PD on 11 Dec 2009 12:31 On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves. How > > is this a wave in the aether? > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > aether? > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions. > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > at that place? > > > PD > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can only measure the sum. But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not constructively or destructively interfere). How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot in space? PD
From: mpc755 on 11 Dec 2009 12:32 On Dec 11, 12:28 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 11:14 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:44 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 10:57 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 11, 9:48 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > A "field" in physics is space filled with aether, and the strength of > > > > > > the field is the displacement of the aether from its rest position. > > > > > > That's interesting. Now, in any given region of space, there are > > > > > several fields that exist there SIMULTANEOUSLY: electric field, > > > > > magnetic field, gravitational field, strong nuclear field, weak > > > > > nuclear field. And all of those different fields have different values > > > > > and directions at each point in space. Now, how is that explained by a > > > > > single displacement of an aether from its rest position, which of > > > > > course can have only one value and one direction at any given point in > > > > > space? > > > > > Multiple waves interact and continue on. > > > > When THE aether displaces from ITS rest position (singular), it > > > displaces from that point to ONE other point, right? > > > > You just said is that the strength of a field is THE displacement of > > > THE aether from ITS rest position. > > > > But at any given place in space, there are MULTIPLE fields with > > > MULTIPLE strengths and MULTIPLE directions. > > > > Please resolve. > > > If you have two boats that are crossing each others paths, the bow > > wave of each of the boats interacts and then continues on with one or > > the other boat after the boats interact. A boats bow wave is a > > displacement wave in the water. > > And note these are traveling waves. I am not sure if the are 'traveling' waves or displacement waves. Is the aether physically moving or is it displaced and is there a difference? Not sure. > And at the place where they cross, > there are not two waves, but one. That is, if you look at the > displacement at that one spot, you can't tell how much of the > displacement is due to one way and how much is due to the other. But > with electric and magnetic fields you can tell them separately with > measurement at that one spot. > If you measure at that one spot, depending upon what you are measuring, you will detect one or the other wave. > > > > Magnetic and electric 'fields' are displacement waves, > > The case I mentioned has static fields, not traveling waves. How much > of the displacement of the aether is the magnitude of the electric > field and how much of it is the magnetic field? > > > and a C-60 > > molecule in a double slit experiment creates a displacement wave, in > > the aether. The displacement waves are able to interact and then > > continue on once the interaction has completed. > > > > > Gravity is displaced aether pushing back. > > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > >
From: mpc755 on 11 Dec 2009 12:45 On Dec 11, 12:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves. How > > > is this a wave in the aether? > > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > > aether? > > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions. > > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > > at that place? > > > > PD > > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. > > No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two > water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a > particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that > point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can > only measure the sum. > > But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields > SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not > constructively or destructively interfere). > > How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, > magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot > in space? > > PD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle "In physics, Maxwell's equations imply that the (possibly time- varying) distributions of charges and currents are related to the electric and magnetic fields by a linear transformation. Thus, the superposition principle can be used to simplify the computation of fields which arise from given charge and current distribution."
From: mpc755 on 11 Dec 2009 12:51 On Dec 11, 12:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves. How > > > is this a wave in the aether? > > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > > aether? > > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions. > > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > > at that place? > > > > PD > > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. > > No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two > water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a > particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that > point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can > only measure the sum. > > But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields > SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not > constructively or destructively interfere). > > How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, > magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot > in space? > > PD - Show quoted text - > On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves. How > > > is this a wave in the aether? > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > > aether? > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions. > > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > > at that place? > > > PD > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. > No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two > water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a > particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that > point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can > only measure the sum. > But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields > SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not > constructively or destructively interfere). > How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, > magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot > in space? > PD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle "In physics, Maxwell's equations imply that the (possibly time- varying) distributions of charges and currents are related to the electric and magnetic fields by a linear transformation. Thus, the superposition principle can be used to simplify the computation of fields which arise from given charge and current distribution." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations "In 1864, Maxwell derived the electromagnetic wave equation by linking the displacement current to the time-varying electric field that is associated with electromagnetic induction. This is described in his A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field, where he wrote: "The agreement of the results seems to show that light and magnetism are affections of the same substance, and that light is an electromagnetic disturbance propagated through the field according to electromagnetic laws." [note 1] The extension to displacement current applies in the pure vacuum. This has been interpreted by some to mean that a changing electric field can produce a magnetic field, and vice-versa. Under this interpretation it follows that even with no electric charges or currents present, it is possible to have stable, self-perpetuating waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with each field driving the other. The physical parameters of transverse elasticity and density, which Maxwell used to calculate the speed of these electromagnetic waves, have been replaced by two easily-measurable physical constants, the electric constant and the magnetic constant." Displacement Current = Aether Displacement.
From: mpc755 on 11 Dec 2009 13:02
On Dec 11, 12:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves. How > > > is this a wave in the aether? > > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > > aether? > > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions. > > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > > at that place? > > > > PD > > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. > > No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two > water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a > particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that > point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can > only measure the sum. > > But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields > SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not > constructively or destructively interfere). > > How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, > magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot > in space? > > PD http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle "In physics, Maxwell's equations imply that the (possibly time- varying) distributions of charges and currents are related to the electric and magnetic fields by a linear transformation. Thus, the superposition principle can be used to simplify the computation of fields which arise from given charge and current distribution." http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations "In 1864, Maxwell derived the electromagnetic wave equation by linking the displacement current to the time-varying electric field that is associated with electromagnetic induction. This is described in his A Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field, where he wrote: "The agreement of the results seems to show that light and magnetism are affections of the same substance, and that light is an electromagnetic disturbance propagated through the field according to electromagnetic laws." [note 1] The extension to displacement current applies in the pure vacuum. This has been interpreted by some to mean that a changing electric field can produce a magnetic field, and vice-versa. Under this interpretation it follows that even with no electric charges or currents present, it is possible to have stable, self-perpetuating waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with each field driving the other. The physical parameters of transverse elasticity and density, which Maxwell used to calculate the speed of these electromagnetic waves, have been replaced by two easily-measurable physical constants, the electric constant and the magnetic constant." Displacement Current = Aether Displacement. |