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From: BURT on 13 Dec 2009 17:56 On Dec 13, 2:12 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 13, 11:28 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > I think it is a great misfortune. You have these things which cannot > > be explained such as WP Duality etc...and many people (including many > > scientists) take that as an opportunity to depart from formality and > > appeal to some kind of mysticism. They seem to relish the mystery, the > > wonderment of not being able to explain something. It serves as an > > intoxicant for the mind of the intellectual, and they are all junkies. > > Wave-Particle Duality: A moving particle creates a displacement wave > in the substance of space. > > That being said, the above paragraph is excellent and the fact that QM > believers are in denial of a correct explanation for Wave-Particle > Duality is evidence of their preferred desire to 'relish the mystery'. Space has its own aether. Energy has its own aether. Mitch Raemsch
From: mpc755 on 13 Dec 2009 17:58 On Dec 13, 11:28 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > I think it is a great misfortune. You have these things which cannot > be explained such as WP Duality etc...and many people (including many > scientists) take that as an opportunity to depart from formality and > appeal to some kind of mysticism. They seem to relish the mystery, the > wonderment of not being able to explain something. It serves as an > intoxicant for the mind of the intellectual, and they are all junkies. Wave-Particle Duality: A moving particle creates a displacement wave in the substance of space. That being said, the above paragraph is excellent and the fact that QM believers are in denial of a correct explanation for Wave-Particle Duality is evidence of their preferred desire to 'relish the mystery'.
From: Huang on 13 Dec 2009 19:19 On Dec 13, 12:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 13, 11:28 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > Outside of Earth and its affairs, show me a clock, or "1 second", in > > > the universe. > > > > > Bending of space is meaningful in physics. > > > > Not "of space"; of co-ordinate lines in METRICAL space. > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space > > "In MATHEMATICS, a metric space is a set where a notion of distance > (called a metric) between elements of the set is defined." > > > > <It is more difficult in mathematics because mathematicians are like a > > > bunch of lawyers playing a complicated game, and they typically do not > > > indulge in the highly "liberalized" models such as using "existential > > > indeterminacy". If they did - physics would be unified. But this has > > > not happened yet. > > > > > Fortunately!! > > > I think it is a great misfortune. You have these things which cannot > > be explained such as WP Duality etc...and many people (including many > > scientists) take that as an opportunity to depart from formality and > > appeal to some kind of mysticism. They seem to relish the mystery, the > > wonderment of not being able to explain something. It serves as an > > intoxicant for the mind of the intellectual, and they are all junkies. > > Wave-Particle Duality is explained. The moving particle creates a > displacement wave in the substance of space. So - why do interference patterns disappear after you ask "which way" ?? What happened to the displacement wave ? Where did it go ? Asking "which way" seems to destroy the interference pattern, and therefore the waves. Why would that happen ? I have an explanation, but I dont think that you read it.
From: mpc755 on 13 Dec 2009 19:33 On Dec 13, 7:19 pm, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > On Dec 13, 12:50 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 13, 11:28 am, Huang <huangxienc...(a)yahoo.com> wrote: > > > > > Outside of Earth and its affairs, show me a clock, or "1 second", in > > > > the universe. > > > > > > Bending of space is meaningful in physics. > > > > > Not "of space"; of co-ordinate lines in METRICAL space. > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metric_space > > > "In MATHEMATICS, a metric space is a set where a notion of distance > > (called a metric) between elements of the set is defined." > > > > > <It is more difficult in mathematics because mathematicians are like a > > > > bunch of lawyers playing a complicated game, and they typically do not > > > > indulge in the highly "liberalized" models such as using "existential > > > > indeterminacy". If they did - physics would be unified. But this has > > > > not happened yet. > > > > > > Fortunately!! > > > > I think it is a great misfortune. You have these things which cannot > > > be explained such as WP Duality etc...and many people (including many > > > scientists) take that as an opportunity to depart from formality and > > > appeal to some kind of mysticism. They seem to relish the mystery, the > > > wonderment of not being able to explain something. It serves as an > > > intoxicant for the mind of the intellectual, and they are all junkies.. > > > Wave-Particle Duality is explained. The moving particle creates a > > displacement wave in the substance of space. > > So - why do interference patterns disappear after you ask "which > way" ?? > > What happened to the displacement wave ? Where did it go ? > > Asking "which way" seems to destroy the interference pattern, and > therefore the waves. Why would that happen ? > > I have an explanation, but I dont think that you read it. Asking 'which way' is the same thing as physically detecting the particle. In the boat in a double slit experiment, in order to detect the boat, buoys are placed at the exits to the slits. The boats bow wave is its displacement wave in the water. The bow wave enters and exits both slits. The buoys destroy the coherence of the bow waves as they exit the slits (decoherence). The bow waves are turned into chop. Since the coherence of the bow waves have been destroyed and turned into chop, they do not create interference and do not alter the direction the boat travels. This is what is occurring to the displacement wave the C-60 molecule creates in the substance of space. Detecting the C-60 molecule destroys the coherence (decoherence) of the displacement wave (it is turned into 'chop') and the direction the C-60 molecules travels is not altered.
From: glird on 13 Dec 2009 19:41
On Dec 13, 7:19 pm, Huang wrote: > On Dec 13, 12:50 pm, mpc755 wrote: > > Wave-Particle Duality is explained. The moving particle creates a displacement wave in the substance of space. > >< So - why do interference patterns disappear after you ask "which way"?? What happened to the displacement wave ? Where did it go? Asking "which way" seems to destroy the interference pattern, and therefore the waves. Why would that happen? I have an explanation, but I don't think that you read it. > Please post it; and do so under a new posting. (This one is getting so long that it's a nuisance to wait for the "newer" bunches of 25 each to get to the one(s) worth reading.) |