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From: glird on 11 Dec 2009 14:05 On Dec 11, 12:28 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 11:14 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 11:44 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: How did mpc know, at 11.14 am, what PD was going to post .5 hours LATER on the same day? (Yes, i know it was a simple mistake; but o those of us who follow these discussions with great interest, it is disconcerting and time wasting to try to find the postings to which one of u replies.
From: mpc755 on 11 Dec 2009 14:33 On Dec 11, 2:05 pm, glird <gl...(a)aol.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 12:28 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Dec 11, 11:14 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 11:44 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > How did mpc know, at 11.14 am, what PD was going to post .5 hours > LATER on the same day? > > (Yes, i know it was a simple mistake; but o those of us who follow > these discussions with great interest, it is disconcerting and time > wasting to try to find the postings to which one of u replies. I was getting a lift from a C-60 molecule and in QM, since the C-60 molecule knows to enter one or multiple slits depending upon there being or not being detectors placed at the exits to the slits in the future, I already knew what PD was going to post before it happened.
From: PD on 11 Dec 2009 15:15 On Dec 11, 12:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 12:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves. How > > > > is this a wave in the aether? > > > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > > > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > > > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > > > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > > > aether? > > > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions. > > > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > > > at that place? > > > > > PD > > > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > > > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. > > > No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two > > water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a > > particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that > > point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can > > only measure the sum. > > > But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields > > SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not > > constructively or destructively interfere). > > > How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, > > magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot > > in space? > > > PD > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle > > "In physics, Maxwell's equations imply that the (possibly time- > varying) distributions of charges and currents are related to the > electric and magnetic fields by a linear transformation. Thus, the > superposition principle can be used to simplify the computation of > fields which arise from given charge and current distribution." > > http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations > > "In 1864, Maxwell derived the electromagnetic wave equation by linking > the displacement current to the time-varying electric field that is > associated with electromagnetic induction. This is described in his A > Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field, where he wrote: > > "The agreement of the results seems to show that light and > magnetism are affections of the same substance, and that light is an > electromagnetic disturbance propagated through the field according to > electromagnetic laws." [note 1] > > The extension to displacement current applies in the pure vacuum. This > has been interpreted by some to mean that a changing electric field > can produce a magnetic field, and vice-versa. Under this > interpretation it follows that even with no electric charges or > currents present, it is possible to have stable, self-perpetuating > waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with each field > driving the other. The physical parameters of transverse elasticity > and density, which Maxwell used to calculate the speed of these > electromagnetic waves, have been replaced by two easily-measurable > physical constants, the electric constant and the magnetic constant." > > Displacement Current = Aether Displacement. While I applaud your willingness to try to correct your ignorance by looking things up in Wikipedia, it would help if you knew a little more about what you're talking about. The statement about superposition of electromagnetic fields from charges and currents is talking about the superposition of the *same* kind of field due to multiple sources (charges and currents). I mentioned to you that the *same* region of space will have *different* kinds of fields -- say, electric and gravitational -- present. These can be static fields, not waves. Please account for the presence of TWO different kinds of fields in the same location due to THE displacement of THE aether from ITS rest position. PD
From: mpc755 on 11 Dec 2009 15:22 On Dec 11, 3:15 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 12:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 12:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > > > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves. How > > > > > is this a wave in the aether? > > > > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > > > > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > > > > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > > > > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > > > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > > > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > > > > aether? > > > > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > > > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions.. > > > > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > > > > at that place? > > > > > > PD > > > > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > > > > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. > > > > No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two > > > water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a > > > particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that > > > point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can > > > only measure the sum. > > > > But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields > > > SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not > > > constructively or destructively interfere). > > > > How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, > > > magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot > > > in space? > > > > PD > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle > > > "In physics, Maxwell's equations imply that the (possibly time- > > varying) distributions of charges and currents are related to the > > electric and magnetic fields by a linear transformation. Thus, the > > superposition principle can be used to simplify the computation of > > fields which arise from given charge and current distribution." > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations > > > "In 1864, Maxwell derived the electromagnetic wave equation by linking > > the displacement current to the time-varying electric field that is > > associated with electromagnetic induction. This is described in his A > > Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field, where he wrote: > > > "The agreement of the results seems to show that light and > > magnetism are affections of the same substance, and that light is an > > electromagnetic disturbance propagated through the field according to > > electromagnetic laws." [note 1] > > > The extension to displacement current applies in the pure vacuum. This > > has been interpreted by some to mean that a changing electric field > > can produce a magnetic field, and vice-versa. Under this > > interpretation it follows that even with no electric charges or > > currents present, it is possible to have stable, self-perpetuating > > waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with each field > > driving the other. The physical parameters of transverse elasticity > > and density, which Maxwell used to calculate the speed of these > > electromagnetic waves, have been replaced by two easily-measurable > > physical constants, the electric constant and the magnetic constant." > > > Displacement Current = Aether Displacement. > > While I applaud your willingness to try to correct your ignorance by > looking things up in Wikipedia, it would help if you knew a little > more about what you're talking about. The statement about > superposition of electromagnetic fields from charges and currents is > talking about the superposition of the *same* kind of field due to > multiple sources (charges and currents). > > I mentioned to you that the *same* region of space will have > *different* kinds of fields -- say, electric and gravitational -- > present. These can be static fields, not waves. Please account for the > presence of TWO different kinds of fields in the same location due to > THE displacement of THE aether from ITS rest position. > > PD You are misinterpreting the following: "Under this interpretation it follows that even with no electric charges or currents present, it is possible to have stable, self- perpetuating waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with each field driving the other." See the part about "WAVES of electric AND magnetic fields, with each field driving the other."
From: PD on 11 Dec 2009 15:26
On Dec 11, 2:22 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Dec 11, 3:15 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 12:02 pm, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > On Dec 11, 12:31 pm, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:21 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > On Dec 11, 11:48 am, PD <thedraperfam...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Dec 11, 10:07 am, mpc755 <mpc...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > Magnetic and electric fields are waves in the aether. > > > > > > > If you have a refrigerator magnet laying on the kitchen counter, the > > > > > > magnetic field is a constant and nothing about that field moves.. How > > > > > > is this a wave in the aether? > > > > > > The magnet on the counter is no different than the aether wave a C-60 > > > > > molecule creates in a double slit experiment. Just like the C-60 > > > > > molecule creates a displacement wave in the aether, the electrons all > > > > > moving in unison in the magnet create an aether vortex. > > > > > > > If you run a plastic comb through your hair and lay it on the counter > > > > > > right on top of the refrigerator magnet, the electric field is a > > > > > > constant and nothing about that field moves. How is this a wave in the > > > > > > aether? > > > > > > > At a particular place on the surface of the counter, the electric and > > > > > > magnetic fields have different strengths and different directions. > > > > > > What is the direction and magnitude of the displacement of the aether > > > > > > at that place? > > > > > > > PD > > > > > > Its the same thing as multiple waves interacting. The waves could be > > > > > cumulative or the waves could cancel each other out. > > > > > No sir. Wave superposition applies only to waves of the same sort: two > > > > water waves, two sound waves, two light waves. When that happens at a > > > > particular point, you can't tell how much of the displacement at that > > > > point is due to one wave and how much is due to the other -- you can > > > > only measure the sum. > > > > > But in the cases that I mentioned, you can measure each of the fields > > > > SEPARATELY where they overlap. They do not superpose (they do not > > > > constructively or destructively interfere). > > > > > How can you account for the SEPARATELY MEASURABLE fields (electric, > > > > magnetic, gravitational, strong nuclear, weak nuclear) at a given spot > > > > in space? > > > > > PD > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superposition_principle > > > > "In physics, Maxwell's equations imply that the (possibly time- > > > varying) distributions of charges and currents are related to the > > > electric and magnetic fields by a linear transformation. Thus, the > > > superposition principle can be used to simplify the computation of > > > fields which arise from given charge and current distribution." > > > >http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maxwell%27s_equations > > > > "In 1864, Maxwell derived the electromagnetic wave equation by linking > > > the displacement current to the time-varying electric field that is > > > associated with electromagnetic induction. This is described in his A > > > Dynamical Theory of the Electromagnetic Field, where he wrote: > > > > "The agreement of the results seems to show that light and > > > magnetism are affections of the same substance, and that light is an > > > electromagnetic disturbance propagated through the field according to > > > electromagnetic laws." [note 1] > > > > The extension to displacement current applies in the pure vacuum. This > > > has been interpreted by some to mean that a changing electric field > > > can produce a magnetic field, and vice-versa. Under this > > > interpretation it follows that even with no electric charges or > > > currents present, it is possible to have stable, self-perpetuating > > > waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with each field > > > driving the other. The physical parameters of transverse elasticity > > > and density, which Maxwell used to calculate the speed of these > > > electromagnetic waves, have been replaced by two easily-measurable > > > physical constants, the electric constant and the magnetic constant." > > > > Displacement Current = Aether Displacement. > > > While I applaud your willingness to try to correct your ignorance by > > looking things up in Wikipedia, it would help if you knew a little > > more about what you're talking about. The statement about > > superposition of electromagnetic fields from charges and currents is > > talking about the superposition of the *same* kind of field due to > > multiple sources (charges and currents). > > > I mentioned to you that the *same* region of space will have > > *different* kinds of fields -- say, electric and gravitational -- > > present. These can be static fields, not waves. Please account for the > > presence of TWO different kinds of fields in the same location due to > > THE displacement of THE aether from ITS rest position. > > > PD > > You are misinterpreting the following: > > "Under this interpretation it follows that even with no electric > charges or currents present, it is possible to have stable, self- > perpetuating waves of oscillating electric and magnetic fields, with > each field driving the other." > > See the part about "WAVES of electric AND magnetic fields, with each > field driving the other." Yes, there CAN be electromagnetic waves. But there can be fields that are NOT waves. Static fields are generated all the time. This is why I mentioned the statically charged plastic comb sitting on a refrigerator magnet on your kitchen counter. No waves present. But fields -- distinct fields -- there nonetheless. Not to mention the gravitational field present in the same spot. How can all those fields be accounted for by THE displacement of THE aether from ITS rest position? PD |