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From: Jesse F. Hughes on 4 Sep 2006 09:10 Han de Bruijn <Han.deBruijn(a)DTO.TUDelft.NL> writes: > Jesse F. Hughes wrote: > >> Now, if you ask whether the axioms of arithmetic suffice to prove 10/5 = 2, >> well that's a different matter. But Han sure as heck did >> not check. > > Heh, heh! _Others_ have checked that the axioms of arithmetic suffice to > prove 10/5 = 2 . So I don't have to repeat it. We conclude that 10/5 = 2 > is a check on the axioms of arithmetic. Read my lips: I didn't say it's > a full check ... Look, it's not a big deal, but what you said was pretty clearly a lie. A white lie, an exaggeration, whatever. You wrote: Is that so? Lately, I found that if you have ten apples and five people, then you can give everybody two apples. I checked this with the axioms of arithmetic and found that 10 / 5 = 2. Clearly you didn't check it with the axioms. Not in any real sense at all. Because you don't know the axioms. There's no reason to continue debating this obvious fact. -- "Now for once I might actually have an audience that realizes that [my proof of Fermat's Last Theorem is correct], because you see, they'll finally know what's in it for them--cold, hard cash." --James Harris embarks on a new mathematical strategy.
From: Jesse F. Hughes on 4 Sep 2006 09:55 John Schutkeker <jschutkeker(a)sbcglobal.net.nospam> writes: > In America, we have a saying - "Publish or perish," which means that, as > long as you've satisfied all the requirements of due diligence, to > eliminate the probablity of error, you have an ethical obligation to > publish all important results. That's not at all what "publish or perish" means. That phrase is about academic pressures, not ethical obligations. This is one Wikipedia states clearly and correctly: "Publish or perish" refers to the pressure to publish work constantly in order to further or sustain one's career in academia. The competition for tenure-track faculty positions in academia puts increasing pressure on scholars to publish new work frequently. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Publish_or_perish The result of publish-and-perish is that academic publications suffer. It is in the researcher's interest to publish often, so he is tempted to publish a different article for each small advance rather than a single article describing his research output is one swell foop. (Teaching suffers too as research becomes overwhelmingly important, of course.) -- Jesse F. Hughes "I want to really eat myself, so then I'll be a coalgebra." -- Quincy P. Hughes, Age 3 1/2
From: Han de Bruijn on 4 Sep 2006 10:31 Jesse F. Hughes wrote: > There's no reason to continue debating this obvious fact. But ... !! :-( Han de Bruijn
From: Han de Bruijn on 4 Sep 2006 10:40 Jesse F. Hughes wrote: > The result of publish-and-perish is that academic publications > suffer. It is in the researcher's interest to publish often, so he is > tempted to publish a different article for each small advance rather > than a single article describing his research output is one swell > foop. (Teaching suffers too as research becomes overwhelmingly > important, of course.) Very much affirmative! And I would like to add to this the content of an old response to "JSH: At the Annals": http://groups.google.nl/group/sci.math/msg/073c83c6b330f28c?hl=en& Han de Bruijn
From: John Schutkeker on 4 Sep 2006 10:43
John Schutkeker <jschutkeker(a)sbcglobal.net.nospam> wrote in news:Xns98342B7FEFE44lkajehoriuasldfjknak(a)207.115.17.102: > Han de Bruijn <Han.deBruijn(a)DTO.TUDelft.NL> wrote in > news:1d984$44fbd97f$82a1e228$28877(a)news1.tudelft.nl: > >> John Schutkeker wrote: >> >>> If they don't have specific criticisms, ignore them. Do you think >>> you will present it at a conference? >> >> Maybe. Thanks for your advice. > > I'd love to know how you make out. I'd also like a preprint. Never mind, I found it. |