From: Han de Bruijn on
Jesse F. Hughes wrote:

> Nothing to do with fatalism. The fact that administrators mistake
> quantity for quality is a bad thing. It pushes researchers to publish
> often rather than to publish well.

My regular job is such administration. Which explains a great deal of my
"fatalism". As for the rest, I cannot improve on Jesse's answer.

Han de Bruijn

From: Han de Bruijn on
Lester Zick wrote:

> "JSH: At the Anals" might be more like it.

Look who is talking.

Han de Bruijn

From: Han de Bruijn on
John Schutkeker wrote:

> It's fatalism to say "Screw the journals, and publish on the web."

Or maybe it is: Welcome to Modern Times!

Han de Bruijn

From: Han de Bruijn on
Jesse F. Hughes wrote:

> You said that there were two "fatalists" and "quitters" in this
> thread, but only one person advocated web-publishing instead of
> journals.

Also the Field Medal winner Grisha Perelman did web-publishing
instead of journals.

> And it weren't me. But your post sure makes it look like it's
> directed to me as well as Han.

Uhm, Jesse, it seems to me that you are a web-publisher as well:
14.900 articles via Google, at first sight. I would be surprised if
that doesn't outnumber your publications in paper-based journals.

Han de Bruijn

From: Jesse F. Hughes on
Han de Bruijn <Han.deBruijn(a)DTO.TUDelft.NL> writes:

> Jesse F. Hughes wrote:
>
>> And it weren't me. But your post sure makes it look like it's
>> directed to me as well as Han.
>
> Uhm, Jesse, it seems to me that you are a web-publisher as well:
> 14.900 articles via Google, at first sight. I would be surprised if
> that doesn't outnumber your publications in paper-based journals.

I don't use web-publishing instead of journals, but in addition to
journals.

I am not so dismissive of the importance of peer-reviewed publication
as you are. But I also see the value of web publications (and I don't
mean Usenet posts!).


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