From: Lester Zick on
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:04:45 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <ah0mf2lmvhjgl1ne3taco1me41blupm5ee(a)4ax.com>,
> Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:21:31 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <lh3kf2ddd2ojjumc0gup6dmvvh6bngdr75(a)4ax.com>,
>> > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 14:46:04 -0400, "Jesse F. Hughes"
>> >> <jesse(a)phiwumbda.org> wrote:
>
>> >> >Now, if you ask whether the axioms of arithmetic suffice to prove
>> >> >10/5 = 2, well that's a different matter. But Han sure as heck did
>> >> >not check.
>> >>
>> >> Some reason he should?
>> >
>> >Only that if one says one has done something, it is proper to have
>> >actually done it.
>>
>> And how pray tell do you know that's true?
>
>My parents told me.

You know who they are?

>To bad you didn't have any, or you might have learnt it too.

Clever devil.

>> >But that level of moral/ethical obligation is clearly quite foreign to
>> >Zick.
>>
>> Just as the truth is to you.
>
>Zick says that because he is entirely incapable of recognizing truth.

Whereas you're the arbiter of truth.

~v~~
From: Lester Zick on
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:06:41 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <qi0mf2h3lr9lb4vu06bp5063d5tduq5f47(a)4ax.com>,
> Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:56:47 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> >In article <4t4kf2phpmptgut1bepl91pfbie4eab4nq(a)4ax.com>,
>> > Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 15:54:26 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>> >
>> >> >Zick seems to object to anyone else having an opinion of what "true"
>> >> >means, and to bolster his own Know-Nothing position declines to express
>> >> >any opinion of his own on what "true" means.
>> >>
>> >> Only because I don't know how to issue declarations.
>> >
>> >You just issued one anyway!
>>
>> How do you know that's true?
>>
>The truth of Zick's declarations is his own responsibility.

But the truth of yours is not.

>But it is one he honours more in the breach than in the observance.

Whereas you honor most everything in the breach.

~v~~
From: Lester Zick on
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:51:47 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <1157304905.224581.305990(a)74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
> Han.deBruijn(a)DTO.TUDelft.NL wrote:
>
>> John Schutkeker wrote:
>>
>> > Did the professors that you showed it to have have any specific
>> > complaints, or did they just say "Everybody knows that it can't be
>> > done"?
>>
>> This: "Sorry, mr. de Bruijn, it is _us_ who do the research here".
>>
>> Han de Bruijn
>
>Any professor speaking English ought to have said
>"It is _we_ who do the research here".

Truth as a function of grammar?

~v~~
From: Lester Zick on
On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:28:03 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:

>In article <ii1mf2lrcn71q4l3qgfhmbh7f27gb1q9t7(a)4ax.com>,
> Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote:
>
>> On Sat, 02 Sep 2006 21:34:34 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>
>> >> >My answer is that exclamations, requests, commands, questions, etc,
>> >> >even when grammatically sentences, are not declarations, and only
>> >> >delarations need be either true or false.
>> >>
>> >> So is this a declaration, sport?
>> >
>> >If you can't figure that out for yourself, sport, you are too dim to
>> >comment upon mathematics at all.
>>
>> Whereas you prefer to comment on grammar instead.
>
>When relevant, and among other things, yes.

Truth as a function of grammar?

>Wheras Zick's only goal in commenting is one-ups-manship.

Kinda futile for me to engage in a duel of wits with an unarmed
opponent.

~v~~
From: John Schutkeker on
Lester Zick <dontbother(a)nowhere.net> wrote in
news:vnamf21ivup6odfi0kc91mmp637thv6j8e(a)4ax.com:

> On Sun, 03 Sep 2006 11:51:47 -0600, Virgil <virgil(a)comcast.net> wrote:
>
>>In article <1157304905.224581.305990(a)74g2000cwt.googlegroups.com>,
>> Han.deBruijn(a)DTO.TUDelft.NL wrote:
>>
>>> John Schutkeker wrote:
>>>
>>> > Did the professors that you showed it to have have any specific
>>> > complaints, or did they just say "Everybody knows that it can't be
>>> > done"?
>>>
>>> This: "Sorry, mr. de Bruijn, it is _us_ who do the research here".
>>>
>>> Han de Bruijn
>>
>>Any professor speaking English ought to have said
>>"It is _we_ who do the research here".
>
> Truth as a function of grammar?

Good one.