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From: Chris H on 24 Jan 2010 14:48 In message <4b5c8778$0$23827$8f2e0ebb(a)news.shared-secrets.com>, Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> writes >"Chris H" <chris(a)phaedsys.org> wrote in message news:ZwjAqxBFECXLFA$z@p >haedsys.demon.co.uk... >> In message <4b5b583c$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> >> writes >>>Peter wrote: >>>> And many, including a former PM or yours, will use private for >>>>other reasons. He even came here for treatment while he was in >>>>office. Out of discretion I will not reveal his name, nor how I know >>>>about it. >>> >>>Interesting! >>> >>>(you already excluded Thatcher with the "he") >> >> She did have private medical treatment in the US > > >I wonder why Safer after what she did to the NHS :-)))) -- \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\ \/\/\/\/\ Chris Hills Staffs England /\/\/\/\/ \/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/
From: Peter on 24 Jan 2010 14:54 "Savageduck" <savageduck1@{REMOVESPAM}me.com> wrote in message news:201001241118517987-savageduck1(a)REMOVESPAMmecom... > On 2010-01-24 09:34:26 -0800, "Peter" <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> said: > >> Please don't use any factual or logical statements. too many of us here >> would get a heart attack. > > At least that is treatable. ;-) > ...er, if you have the appropriate medical insurance, or can make it to > the emergency room in time. Remember those $1200-$5000 ambulance rides > also add to the total cost. It is almost cheaper to get a limo ride to the > hospital, or drive yourself. > Almost?? -- Peter
From: tony cooper on 24 Jan 2010 16:52 On 24 Jan 2010 18:56:11 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: >tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:31:43 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>wrote: >> >>>In message <4b5b7a92$0$1677$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer >>><rfischer(a)sonic.net> writes >>>>tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> In the UK they would if they were fit enough for the operation and it >>>>>>>>>> would improve their life. That said AFAIK all patients get screened for >>>>>>>>>> operations as no one wants to do pointless operations. However these >>>>>>>>>> decisions are taken on medical grounds. >>>>>>>>> That's rationing of the pie. The customer doesn't decide, the government >>>>>>>>> employee does. >>>>>>>> Not at all the medical staff decide on MEDICAL grounds. >>>>> >>>>>If you have a bum knee, some doctor in the NHS will decide if you will >>>>>get a replacement joint or not. >>>> >>>>And in the US it's the insurance company that decides. >>> >>>So the UK is a medical decision and the US is a commercial one. >> >>Is Ray Fischer someone you believe? Insurance companies do not make >>decisions about whether or not a client has a knee replacement. Ever. > >LOL! I guess you've never heard of something called "prior approval". >Maybe when you get to be an adult and actualy deal with insurance >companies you'll learn how it really works. After five decades of being covered by medical insurance, and a few surgeries, I think I have a pretty good understanding. >>They only have a say-so with procedures that are considered to be >>elective. > >Duh! Knee surgery is elective. If you want to look at it that way, all surgical procedures done to you while you are awake are elective. You have to elect to accept any surgery unless you are unconscious. However, for insurance purposes, elective surgery is surgery that is not required to maintain the patient's ability to function. -- Tony Cooper - Orlando, Florida
From: Ray Fischer on 24 Jan 2010 17:17 tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >On 24 Jan 2010 18:56:11 GMT, rfischer(a)sonic.net (Ray Fischer) wrote: > >>tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>On Sun, 24 Jan 2010 10:31:43 +0000, Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>>wrote: >>> >>>>In message <4b5b7a92$0$1677$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net>, Ray Fischer >>>><rfischer(a)sonic.net> writes >>>>>tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In the UK they would if they were fit enough for the operation and it >>>>>>>>>>> would improve their life. That said AFAIK all patients get screened for >>>>>>>>>>> operations as no one wants to do pointless operations. However these >>>>>>>>>>> decisions are taken on medical grounds. >>>>>>>>>> That's rationing of the pie. The customer doesn't decide, the government >>>>>>>>>> employee does. >>>>>>>>> Not at all the medical staff decide on MEDICAL grounds. >>>>>> >>>>>>If you have a bum knee, some doctor in the NHS will decide if you will >>>>>>get a replacement joint or not. >>>>> >>>>>And in the US it's the insurance company that decides. >>>> >>>>So the UK is a medical decision and the US is a commercial one. >>> >>>Is Ray Fischer someone you believe? Insurance companies do not make >>>decisions about whether or not a client has a knee replacement. Ever. >> >>LOL! I guess you've never heard of something called "prior approval". >>Maybe when you get to be an adult and actualy deal with insurance >>companies you'll learn how it really works. > >After five decades of being covered by medical insurance, and a few >surgeries, I think I have a pretty good understanding. Either you don't understand or your'e a liar. >>>They only have a say-so with procedures that are considered to be >>>elective. >> >>Duh! Knee surgery is elective. > >If you want to look at it that way, elective: chosen by the patient rather than urgently necessary. > all surgical procedures done to >you while you are awake are elective. Wrong again. >However, for insurance purposes, elective surgery is surgery that is >not required to maintain the patient's ability to function. Says who? Your made-up definition does not agree with the standard medical definition. -- Ray Fischer rfischer(a)sonic.net
From: Poetic Justice on 24 Jan 2010 17:20
On 1/24/2010 2:01 PM, Ray Fischer wrote: > And health care in the US costs twice as much per person. You need to shop for better health care prices, but emergency care is what you need insurance for. |