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From: Poetic Justice on 24 Jan 2010 09:20 On 1/24/2010 5:37 AM, Chris H wrote: > In message <4b5b6002$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> > writes >> Ray Fischer wrote: >>> rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> wrote: >>>> Ray Fischer wrote: >>>>> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>> Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>>>>>> According to an in depth discussion in another group The UK actually >>>>>>> spends less per person on health care (including dental) in the UK than >>>>>>> the USA spends per person. Also it covers EVERY person in the UK, not >>>>>>> just 80% as per the USA. >>>>>> Where do you get your 80% figure? Everyone in the US is covered by >>>>>> some sort of health care program. >>>>> Nope. >>>> See: emergency room. >>> See: Idiot rightard who doesn't realize that emergency room bills >>> must be paid. >>> >> >> Well of course they must, but then I never made such a statement, did I >> lying Ray? >> >> You're a real bucket of barf. > > So who has to pay the emergency room bills? The same people that would have pay for their free health care insurance....
From: Poetic Justice on 24 Jan 2010 09:23 On 1/24/2010 5:36 AM, Chris H wrote: > In message <4b5b5dc9$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> > writes >> Ray Fischer wrote: >>> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>> >>>>> According to an in depth discussion in another group The UK >>>>> actually >>>>> spends less per person on health care (including dental) in the UK than >>>>> the USA spends per person. Also it covers EVERY person in the UK, not >>>>> just 80% as per the USA. >>>> Where do you get your 80% figure? Everyone in the US is covered by >>>> some sort of health care program. >>> Nope. >> >> See: emergency room. >> >>>> It may be a private insurance >>>> program, Medicare, Medicaid, or some other government program. >>> Sorry, but there are about 30+ million people in the US with no >>> coverage at all. >> >> See; emergency room. > > Where do you go for non emergency medical help if you have no insurance? > The county health clinic or the college health clinic or any number of health centers for the poor where cost is free or prorated/based on your income.
From: rendition on 24 Jan 2010 12:29 Ray Fischer wrote: > rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> wrote: >> Ray Fischer wrote: >>> rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> wrote: >>>> Ray Fischer wrote: >>>>> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In the UK they would if they were fit enough for the operation and it >>>>>>>>>>> would improve their life. That said AFAIK all patients get screened for >>>>>>>>>>> operations as no one wants to do pointless operations. However these >>>>>>>>>>> decisions are taken on medical grounds. >>>>>>>>>> That's rationing of the pie. The customer doesn't decide, the government >>>>>>>>>> employee does. >>>>>>>>> Not at all the medical staff decide on MEDICAL grounds. >>>>>> If you have a bum knee, some doctor in the NHS will decide if you will >>>>>> get a replacement joint or not. >>>>> And in the US it's the insurance company that decides. >>>> Or the emergency room. >>> Wrong >> Ray, you are stupid, > > Whines No Ray, merely observing.
From: rendition on 24 Jan 2010 12:29 Ray Fischer wrote: > rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> wrote: >> Ray Fischer wrote: >>> Peter <peternew(a)nospamoptonline.net> wrote: >>>> "Ray Fischer" <rfischer(a)sonic.net> wrote in message >>>> news:4b5b7a92$0$1677$742ec2ed(a)news.sonic.net... >>>>> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> In the UK they would if they were fit enough for the operation and >>>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>>> would improve their life. That said AFAIK all patients get screened >>>>>>>>>>> for >>>>>>>>>>> operations as no one wants to do pointless operations. However these >>>>>>>>>>> decisions are taken on medical grounds. >>>>>>>>>> That's rationing of the pie. The customer doesn't decide, the >>>>>>>>>> government >>>>>>>>>> employee does. >>>>>>>>> Not at all the medical staff decide on MEDICAL grounds. >>>>>> If you have a bum knee, some doctor in the NHS will decide if you will >>>>>> get a replacement joint or not. >>>>> And in the US it's the insurance company that decides. >>>> You have no clue. >>> Says a pro-lie rightard >> Ray, you are stupid, > > Whines No, observes.
From: rendition on 24 Jan 2010 12:35
Chris H wrote: > In message <4b5b5dc9$1(a)news.x-privat.org>, rendition <ren(a)stimpy.org> > writes >> Ray Fischer wrote: >>> tony cooper <tony_cooper213(a)earthlink.net> wrote: >>>> Chris H <chris(a)phaedsys.org> >>>>> According to an in depth discussion in another group The UK >>>>> actually >>>>> spends less per person on health care (including dental) in the UK than >>>>> the USA spends per person. Also it covers EVERY person in the UK, not >>>>> just 80% as per the USA. >>>> Where do you get your 80% figure? Everyone in the US is covered by >>>> some sort of health care program. >>> Nope. >> See: emergency room. >> >>>> It may be a private insurance >>>> program, Medicare, Medicaid, or some other government program. >>> Sorry, but there are about 30+ million people in the US with no >>> coverage at all. >> See; emergency room. > > Where do you go for non emergency medical help if you have no insurance? > There are numerous free clinics, sponsored health fairs, etc. http://www.freemedicalcamps.com/ http://www.9healthfair.org/ |