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From: Inertial on 12 Apr 2010 06:35 "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:e9ecc70e-a047-44ca-b7eb-6bd43dd54fa2(a)12g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 11, 2:07 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:632304d8-38a6-4c5f-97ec-d564f6c2e5e0(a)30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Apr 10, 1:48 pm, "Inertial" <relativ. >> > >> >> >> > That is >> > correct, though you fo >> >> >> --------------------------- >> >> >> nasty pig!! >> >> >> we are not on the Josef Goebbels >> >> >> fish market!! >> >> >> we are dealing with exact figures!! >> >> >> not abstract hand waving >> >> >> >> 'HOW LONG IT TAKES IT TO BE DETECTED' >> >> >> ?? !!! >> >> >> THAT ANSWER IS NOT AN ANSWER OF AN HONEST PERSON !! >> >> >> ------------ >> >> > and i addition to the above >> >> > the nasty pig CROOK OBFUSCATOR >> >> >> That's you again >> >> >> > is diverting the issue >> >> >> Nope .. I'm addressing it >> >> >> > to how long i takes to CREATE a >> >> > SINGLE photon >> >> >> And destroy. That is important to know. Though seeing it is created >> >> in >> >> an >> >> instant and destroyed in an instant (or within a single quantum of >> >> time >> >> if >> >> time is quantized), it doesn't play much part in how long it take to >> >> detect >> >> > ---------------------- >> > Nazi pig >> >> Who? You? >> >> > didi you forgot your definition of a single photon >> > energy >> >> You mean the what was found by Planck and experimentally verified.? >> >> > as hf ?? >> >> No .. why would I forget it? I'm not the one going senile. I've been >> telling you it for weeks and weeks. > > -------------------- > Nazi psychopth lier pig That's you > go discuss with Josef Goebbels Your biggest hero > and let Igor to discuss physics I am not stopping him. But this conversation branch was between you and I. > (again > **decent** physics !!) I always do .. you don't know how to.
From: Inertial on 12 Apr 2010 06:40 "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:605b7734-b438-4d99-94e2-3987856dba04(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 12, 9:50 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> On Apr 11, 2:07 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >news:632304d8-38a6-4c5f-97ec-d564f6c2e5e0(a)30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... >> >> > > On Apr 10, 1:48 pm, "Inertial" <relativ. >> > >> >> >> > That is >> > > correct, though you fo >> > >> >> --------------------------- >> > >> >> nasty pig!! >> > >> >> we are not on the Josef Goebbels >> > >> >> fish market!! >> > >> >> we are dealing with exact figures!! >> > >> >> not abstract hand waving >> >> > >> >> 'HOW LONG IT TAKES IT TO BE DETECTED' >> > >> >> ?? !!! >> > >> >> THAT ANSWER IS NOT AN ANSWER OF AN HONEST PERSON !! >> > >> >> ------------ >> > >> > and i addition to the above >> > >> > the nasty pig CROOK OBFUSCATOR >> >> > >> That's you again >> >> > >> > is diverting the issue >> >> > >> Nope .. I'm addressing it >> >> > >> > to how long i takes to CREATE a >> > >> > SINGLE photon >> >> > >> And destroy. That is important to know. Though seeing it is >> > >> created in >> > >> an >> > >> instant and destroyed in an instant (or within a single quantum of >> > >> time >> > >> if >> > >> time is quantized), it doesn't play much part in how long it take to >> > >> detect >> >> > > ---------------------- >> > > Nazi pig >> >> > Who? You? >> >> > > didi you forgot your definition of a single photon >> > > energy >> >> > You mean the what was found by Planck and experimentally verified.? >> >> > > as hf ?? >> >> > No .. why would I forget it? I'm not the one going senile. I've been >> > telling you it for weeks and weeks. >> >> -------------------- >> Nazi psychopth lier pig >> go discuss with Josef Goebbels >> >> and let Igor to discuss physics (again >> **decent** physics !!) >> Y.P >> ------------------- > > andin addition > the imbecile Nazi psyhopth idot That's you > does not understand that > if > E=hf is one second dependent It isn't. Never has been. . never will be. > and cant understand why > f is > a variableof time It isn't > ( AGAIN = A VARIABLE FACTOR OF TIME - AFAIN - VARIABLE) Nope > sothe imbecilecan hold both definition > 1 > that eh E=hf as ther definition of A SINGLE PHOTION ENERGY That is what physics has found from experimental evidence. It is a FACT > and later gho one and try tostleal my suggestion I have never stolen anything of yours, nor would I want. > that the real singl > ephoton > is much less than one second duration detected You mean when *I* told *you* it happens within a quantum of time. You're the one stealing ideas. Of course, it doesn't matter how long it takes to detect it > but much shorter time defined > my led torch and photoelectric cell proves it clearly No .. it doesn't. > so it was me who fist time suggested the > Plank time as the shoterst possible Ben and I said it happenned within a single quantum of time. So you STOLE the idea we were discussing. > time duration for photon energy emission > and it is all documented Yes .. it is .. you're a blatant thief > no fucken pig can say that That's you > 1 > e = hf is the definition of as single photon It is > and **on top of that ** > say that it is ----- > 2 > E=hf ***times** plank time It isn't .. that is just nonsense. The units are wrong > the money nazi has to decide if it is > 1 > or > 2 1 .. we know that from experiment. You lose. > (actually he cant decide because he is just > a monkey thief > and his confution and contradictions are recorded > he relies on that thousands of readers > are idiot that cannot follow his lies !! > and his psychopath ness You re describing yourself nicely > -------------------------- > > and still the shameless Nazi pig > Goebbels does not understand You re describing yourself nicely > untill now > why it is not just > the Plank time 'per se " > even after all my spoon feedings > that are recorded !! You mean ME spoon feeding yoiu that photons are created and destroyed within a single quantum of time. > so a monkey thief can never be as the **original ** (and cheat the > record ) You are the thief.. It is all recorded here > so Nazi psychopath pig That's you > just stay away and let Igor to get in I'm not stopping him. Maybe he doesn't like dealing with a theif and liar like you. Can't say I blame him .. you are the most nasty evil old man I've had the misfortune of dealing with.
From: Y.Porat on 12 Apr 2010 06:55 On Apr 12, 12:40 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:605b7734-b438-4d99-94e2-3987856dba04(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Apr 12, 9:50 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > >> On Apr 11, 2:07 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > > >> > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > >> >news:632304d8-38a6-4c5f-97ec-d564f6c2e5e0(a)30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com.... > > >> > > On Apr 10, 1:48 pm, "Inertial" <relativ. >> > >> >> >> > That is > >> > > correct, though you fo > >> > >> >> --------------------------- > >> > >> >> nasty pig!! > >> > >> >> we are not on the Josef Goebbels > >> > >> >> fish market!! > >> > >> >> we are dealing with exact figures!! > >> > >> >> not abstract hand waving > > >> > >> >> 'HOW LONG IT TAKES IT TO BE DETECTED' > >> > >> >> ?? !!! > >> > >> >> THAT ANSWER IS NOT AN ANSWER OF AN HONEST PERSON !! > >> > >> >> ------------ > >> > >> > and i addition to the above > >> > >> > the nasty pig CROOK OBFUSCATOR > > >> > >> That's you again > > >> > >> > is diverting the issue > > >> > >> Nope .. I'm addressing it > > >> > >> > to how long i takes to CREATE a > >> > >> > SINGLE photon > > >> > >> And destroy. That is important to know. Though seeing it is > >> > >> created in > >> > >> an > >> > >> instant and destroyed in an instant (or within a single quantum of > >> > >> time > >> > >> if > >> > >> time is quantized), it doesn't play much part in how long it take to > >> > >> detect > > >> > > ---------------------- > >> > > Nazi pig > > >> > Who? You? > > >> > > didi you forgot your definition of a single photon > >> > > energy > > >> > You mean the what was found by Planck and experimentally verified.? > > >> > > as hf ?? > > >> > No .. why would I forget it? I'm not the one going senile. I've been > >> > telling you it for weeks and weeks. > > >> -------------------- > >> Nazi psychopth lier pig > >> go discuss with Josef Goebbels > > >> and let Igor to discuss physics (again > >> **decent** physics !!) > >> Y.P > >> ------------------- > > > andin addition > > the imbecile Nazi psyhopth idot > > That's you > > > does not understand that > > if > > E=hf is one second dependent > > It isn't. Never has been. . never will be. > > > and cant understand why > > f is > > a variableof time > > It isn't > > > ( AGAIN = A VARIABLE FACTOR OF TIME - AFAIN - VARIABLE) > > Nope > > > sothe imbecilecan hold both definition > > 1 > > that eh E=hf as ther definition of A SINGLE PHOTION ENERGY > > That is what physics has found from experimental evidence. It is a FACT > > > and later gho one and try tostleal my suggestion > > I have never stolen anything of yours, nor would I want. > > > that the real singl > > ephoton > > is much less than one second duration detected > > You mean when *I* told *you* it happens within a quantum of time. You're > the one stealing ideas. > > Of course, it doesn't matter how long it takes to detect it > > > but much shorter time defined > > my led torch and photoelectric cell proves it clearly > > No .. it doesn't. > > > so it was me who fist time suggested the > > Plank time as the shoterst possible > > Ben and I said it happenned within a single quantum of time. So you STOLE > the idea we were discussing. > > > time duration for photon energy emission > > and it is all documented > > Yes .. it is .. you're a blatant thief > > > no fucken pig can say that > > That's you > > > 1 > > e = hf is the definition of as single photon > > It is > > > and **on top of that ** > > say that it is ----- > > 2 > > E=hf ***times** plank time > > It isn't .. that is just nonsense. The units are wrong > > > the money nazi has to decide if it is > > 1 > > or > > 2 > > 1 .. we know that from experiment. You lose. > > > (actually he cant decide because he is just > > a monkey thief > > and his confution and contradictions are recorded > > he relies on that thousands of readers > > are idiot that cannot follow his lies !! > > and his psychopath ness > > You re describing yourself nicely > > > -------------------------- > > > and still the shameless Nazi pig > > Goebbels does not understand > > You re describing yourself nicely > > > untill now > > why it is not just > > the Plank time 'per se " > > even after all my spoon feedings > > that are recorded !! > > You mean ME spoon feeding yoiu that photons are created and destroyed within > a single quantum of time. > > > so a monkey thief can never be as the **original ** (and cheat the > > record ) > > You are the thief.. It is all recorded here > > > so Nazi psychopath pig > > That's you > > > just stay away and let Igor to get in > > I'm not stopping him. Maybe he doesn't like dealing with a theif and liar > like you. Can't say I blame him .. you are the most nasty evil old man I've > had the misfortune of dealing with. ------------------ i am very glad that you still deny that E=hf as one second dependent and time dependent of course you cant understand why i am so happy becaue a psychopt imbecile cant understand physics even if you will grind the straw in his head with a food processor and if so you have nothing to do with my copyrights it is all based on that above understanding so you will not be able to steal anything from me now as before !! because it is once again in addition to TOO MANY al other cases IS RECORDED 12-4-10 ------------------- so you go on and discuss with Josef Goebbels we have nothing to discuss !! (:-) (:-) Y.P ---------------------------- next Y.P ---------------------------------
From: Igor on 12 Apr 2010 06:57 On Apr 11, 10:27 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 11, 3:27 pm, Igor <tho And you're a common bullshitter. > > > > now please tell us > > > what t is the definition of > > > f from that hf ?? > > -------------------- > it seems that you have some difficulty in defining > f > so i will help you a bit > here is the quote from Vilkipedia: > > quote > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency. The period is the > duration of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the > reciprocal of the frequency. > end of quote: > so f is > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > time. !!! > > so > as far as i know > the unit of time FOR ALL SYSTEMS IS A > SECOND ! > right ?? > ------------> It's the frequency of the wave. But hf is only the energy of a single > > photon. > > ----------------- > and that is exactly what we try to find out > BTW i could ask you right now > did anyone ever detected the energy of a single photon?? > for me it is a rhetoric question > so lets leave it as for now > i promise you that we will get to it later !! > ------------- > now you say that actually we deal with > a huge number of single photons > did i ever said some thing else ??.... > anyway > the formal definition of a single photon > as we saw just above is > E=hf rigtht ?? > and > E=hf IS **ONE SECOND DEPENDENT** > AND **TIME DEPENDENT AS WELL!!* > right ? > > that is accepted by you at least theoretically as well right?? > so let us keep you understanding of the single photon energy as > defined by > E=hf > and let us go to the practical world > ok ?? > you say that actually we deal with a huge number of single photons > i agree! > you say that it is **waves* ok > waives of EM are photons as well ...right ?? > now > did you ever hear that > photon energy > **even for a huge number (bunch ) of single photons ** is detected and > measured-- during MUCH LESS THAN ONE SECOND ?!!!! > > TIA > Y.Porat > ------------------------- Let's try something a little simpler for you. One plus one equals two. Maybe tomorrow we'll advance to one plus two. You're hopeless, Borat.
From: Inertial on 12 Apr 2010 07:11
"Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:3acaf54c-5758-4247-b611-d10157238f95(a)y14g2000yqm.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 12, 12:40 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> news:605b7734-b438-4d99-94e2-3987856dba04(a)k33g2000yqc.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> >> > On Apr 12, 9:50 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> On Apr 11, 2:07 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: >> >> >> > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message >> >> >> >news:632304d8-38a6-4c5f-97ec-d564f6c2e5e0(a)30g2000yqi.googlegroups.com... >> >> >> > > On Apr 10, 1:48 pm, "Inertial" <relativ. >> > >> >> >> > That is >> >> > > correct, though you fo >> >> > >> >> --------------------------- >> >> > >> >> nasty pig!! >> >> > >> >> we are not on the Josef Goebbels >> >> > >> >> fish market!! >> >> > >> >> we are dealing with exact figures!! >> >> > >> >> not abstract hand waving >> >> >> > >> >> 'HOW LONG IT TAKES IT TO BE DETECTED' >> >> > >> >> ?? !!! >> >> > >> >> THAT ANSWER IS NOT AN ANSWER OF AN HONEST PERSON !! >> >> > >> >> ------------ >> >> > >> > and i addition to the above >> >> > >> > the nasty pig CROOK OBFUSCATOR >> >> >> > >> That's you again >> >> >> > >> > is diverting the issue >> >> >> > >> Nope .. I'm addressing it >> >> >> > >> > to how long i takes to CREATE a >> >> > >> > SINGLE photon >> >> >> > >> And destroy. That is important to know. Though seeing it is >> >> > >> created in >> >> > >> an >> >> > >> instant and destroyed in an instant (or within a single quantum >> >> > >> of >> >> > >> time >> >> > >> if >> >> > >> time is quantized), it doesn't play much part in how long it take >> >> > >> to >> >> > >> detect >> >> >> > > ---------------------- >> >> > > Nazi pig >> >> >> > Who? You? >> >> >> > > didi you forgot your definition of a single photon >> >> > > energy >> >> >> > You mean the what was found by Planck and experimentally verified.? >> >> >> > > as hf ?? >> >> >> > No .. why would I forget it? I'm not the one going senile. I've >> >> > been >> >> > telling you it for weeks and weeks. >> >> >> -------------------- >> >> Nazi psychopth lier pig >> >> go discuss with Josef Goebbels >> >> >> and let Igor to discuss physics (again >> >> **decent** physics !!) >> >> Y.P >> >> ------------------- >> >> > andin addition >> > the imbecile Nazi psyhopth idot >> >> That's you >> >> > does not understand that >> > if >> > E=hf is one second dependent >> >> It isn't. Never has been. . never will be. >> >> > and cant understand why >> > f is >> > a variableof time >> >> It isn't >> >> > ( AGAIN = A VARIABLE FACTOR OF TIME - AFAIN - VARIABLE) >> >> Nope >> >> > sothe imbecilecan hold both definition >> > 1 >> > that eh E=hf as ther definition of A SINGLE PHOTION ENERGY >> >> That is what physics has found from experimental evidence. It is a FACT >> >> > and later gho one and try tostleal my suggestion >> >> I have never stolen anything of yours, nor would I want. >> >> > that the real singl >> > ephoton >> > is much less than one second duration detected >> >> You mean when *I* told *you* it happens within a quantum of time. You're >> the one stealing ideas. >> >> Of course, it doesn't matter how long it takes to detect it >> >> > but much shorter time defined >> > my led torch and photoelectric cell proves it clearly >> >> No .. it doesn't. >> >> > so it was me who fist time suggested the >> > Plank time as the shoterst possible >> >> Ben and I said it happenned within a single quantum of time. So you >> STOLE >> the idea we were discussing. >> >> > time duration for photon energy emission >> > and it is all documented >> >> Yes .. it is .. you're a blatant thief >> >> > no fucken pig can say that >> >> That's you >> >> > 1 >> > e = hf is the definition of as single photon >> >> It is >> >> > and **on top of that ** >> > say that it is ----- >> > 2 >> > E=hf ***times** plank time >> >> It isn't .. that is just nonsense. The units are wrong >> >> > the money nazi has to decide if it is >> > 1 >> > or >> > 2 >> >> 1 .. we know that from experiment. You lose. >> >> > (actually he cant decide because he is just >> > a monkey thief >> > and his confution and contradictions are recorded >> > he relies on that thousands of readers >> > are idiot that cannot follow his lies !! >> > and his psychopath ness >> >> You re describing yourself nicely >> >> > -------------------------- >> >> > and still the shameless Nazi pig >> > Goebbels does not understand >> >> You re describing yourself nicely >> >> > untill now >> > why it is not just >> > the Plank time 'per se " >> > even after all my spoon feedings >> > that are recorded !! >> >> You mean ME spoon feeding yoiu that photons are created and destroyed >> within >> a single quantum of time. >> >> > so a monkey thief can never be as the **original ** (and cheat the >> > record ) >> >> You are the thief.. It is all recorded here >> >> > so Nazi psychopath pig >> >> That's you >> >> > just stay away and let Igor to get in >> >> I'm not stopping him. Maybe he doesn't like dealing with a theif and liar >> like you. Can't say I blame him .. you are the most nasty evil old man >> I've >> had the misfortune of dealing with. > > ------------------ > i am very glad that you still deny > that > E=hf as one second dependent It isn't .. never has been.. That is just your complete lack of understanding of physics. It is no more one-second dependent that the speed of a car is one-second dependent. Just because in a particular system of units of measure the speed is given in meters per second. > and time dependent Of course it isn't time dependent. Light or sound of a given frequency doesn't change frequency over time. It isn't time dependent > of course you cant understand > why i am so happy Insanity. > becaue a psychopt imbecile > cant understand physics I know you can't > even if you will grind the straw in his head > with a food processor I know .. trying to explain physics to you is VERY frustrating. If you were younger and your mind more able to accept new ideas and think raiotnally, it might be a bit easier > and if so > you have nothing to do with my copyrights Other than when they come from ideas you have stolen from me and others > it is all based on that above understanding > so > you will not be able to steal anything from me now > as before !! Liar .. i have NEVER stolen anything from you. You keep making unjustified allegations > because it is once again > in addition to TOO MANY al other cases IS RECORDED eh? > 12-4-10 > ------------------- > so > you go on and discuss with Josef Goebbels he's your hero .. not mine > we have nothing to discuss !! True .. I discuss physics .. you are incapable of doing so. So .. how about you do us ALL a favor and stop posting in this forum .. you do not belong here. |