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From: Androcles on 12 Apr 2010 07:18 "Igor" <thoovler(a)excite.com> wrote in message news:7940c80a-7fb9-4b6c-b6f9-bad4524c83b3(a)g11g2000yqe.googlegroups.com... On Apr 11, 10:27 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > On Apr 11, 3:27 pm, Igor <tho And you're a common bullshitter. > > > > now please tell us > > > what t is the definition of > > > f from that hf ?? > > -------------------- > it seems that you have some difficulty in defining > f > so i will help you a bit > here is the quote from Vilkipedia: > > quote > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency. The period is the > duration of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the > reciprocal of the frequency. > end of quote: > so f is > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > time. !!! > > so > as far as i know > the unit of time FOR ALL SYSTEMS IS A > SECOND ! > right ?? > ------------> It's the frequency of the wave. But hf is only the energy of > a single > > photon. > > ----------------- > and that is exactly what we try to find out > BTW i could ask you right now > did anyone ever detected the energy of a single photon?? > for me it is a rhetoric question > so lets leave it as for now > i promise you that we will get to it later !! > ------------- > now you say that actually we deal with > a huge number of single photons > did i ever said some thing else ??.... > anyway > the formal definition of a single photon > as we saw just above is > E=hf rigtht ?? > and > E=hf IS **ONE SECOND DEPENDENT** > AND **TIME DEPENDENT AS WELL!!* > right ? > > that is accepted by you at least theoretically as well right?? > so let us keep you understanding of the single photon energy as > defined by > E=hf > and let us go to the practical world > ok ?? > you say that actually we deal with a huge number of single photons > i agree! > you say that it is **waves* ok > waives of EM are photons as well ...right ?? > now > did you ever hear that > photon energy > **even for a huge number (bunch ) of single photons ** is detected and > measured-- during MUCH LESS THAN ONE SECOND ?!!!! > > TIA > Y.Porat > ------------------------- Let's try something a little simpler for you. One plus one equals two. Maybe tomorrow we'll advance to one plus two. You're hopeless, Borat. =============================== "Nothing to see here. Just another drive-by suicide bomber on usenet." - Frankenstein's assistant. Ref: news:9fa39b52-e859-4c1f-b687-7eb97e93f3cd(a)h27g2000yqm.googlegroups.com
From: Y.Porat on 12 Apr 2010 07:38 On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > On Apr 11, 10:27 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Apr 11, 3:27 pm, Igor <tho And you're a common bullshitter. > > > > > now please tell us > > > > what t is the definition of > > > > f from that hf ?? > > > -------------------- > > it seems that you have some difficulty in defining > > f > > so i will help you a bit > > here is the quote from Vilkipedia: > > > quote > > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > > time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency. The period is the > > duration of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the > > reciprocal of the frequency. > > end of quote: > > so f is > > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > > time. !!! > > > so > > as far as i know > > the unit of time FOR ALL SYSTEMS IS A > > SECOND ! > > right ?? > > ------------> It's the frequency of the wave. But hf is only the energy of a single > > > photon. > > > ----------------- > > and that is exactly what we try to find out > > BTW i could ask you right now > > did anyone ever detected the energy of a single photon?? > > for me it is a rhetoric question > > so lets leave it as for now > > i promise you that we will get to it later !! > > ------------- > > now you say that actually we deal with > > a huge number of single photons > > did i ever said some thing else ??.... > > anyway > > the formal definition of a single photon > > as we saw just above is > > E=hf rigtht ?? > > and > > E=hf IS **ONE SECOND DEPENDENT** > > AND **TIME DEPENDENT AS WELL!!* > > right ? > > > that is accepted by you at least theoretically as well right?? > > so let us keep you understanding of the single photon energy as > > defined by > > E=hf > > and let us go to the practical world > > ok ?? > > you say that actually we deal with a huge number of single photons > > i agree! > > you say that it is **waves* ok > > waives of EM are photons as well ...right ?? > > now > > did you ever hear that > > photon energy > > **even for a huge number (bunch ) of single photons ** is detected and > > measured-- during MUCH LESS THAN ONE SECOND ?!!!! > > > TIA > > Y.Porat > > ------------------------- > > Let's try something a little simpler for you. One plus one equals > two. Maybe tomorrow we'll advance to one plus two. You're hopeless, > Borat. ------------------------ Bolshevik demagogue just hand wavings is not enough tocomvince 100 readers that not all of them are idiots just bring PHYSICS ARGUMENTS for instance questions for a secondary school boy : is E=hf time defined or not 2 is it time dependent or not TIA Y.Porat ------------------------------ is it time dependent ur not and explain your anawer !!
From: Inertial on 12 Apr 2010 08:15 "Y.Porat" <y.y.porat(a)gmail.com> wrote in message news:d76e4744-ba53-4e68-8701-aac222753464(a)s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: >> On Apr 11, 10:27 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> > On Apr 11, 3:27 pm, Igor <tho And you're a common bullshitter. >> >> > > > now please tell us >> > > > what t is the definition of >> > > > f from that hf ?? >> >> > -------------------- >> > it seems that you have some difficulty in defining >> > f >> > so i will help you a bit >> > here is the quote from Vilkipedia: >> >> > quote >> > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit >> > time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency. The period is the >> > duration of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the >> > reciprocal of the frequency. >> > end of quote: >> > so f is >> > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit >> > time. !!! >> >> > so >> > as far as i know >> > the unit of time FOR ALL SYSTEMS IS A >> > SECOND ! >> > right ?? >> > ------------> It's the frequency of the wave. But hf is only the >> > energy of a single >> > > photon. >> >> > ----------------- >> > and that is exactly what we try to find out >> > BTW i could ask you right now >> > did anyone ever detected the energy of a single photon?? >> > for me it is a rhetoric question >> > so lets leave it as for now >> > i promise you that we will get to it later !! >> > ------------- >> > now you say that actually we deal with >> > a huge number of single photons >> > did i ever said some thing else ??.... >> > anyway >> > the formal definition of a single photon >> > as we saw just above is >> > E=hf rigtht ?? >> > and >> > E=hf IS **ONE SECOND DEPENDENT** >> > AND **TIME DEPENDENT AS WELL!!* >> > right ? >> >> > that is accepted by you at least theoretically as well right?? >> > so let us keep you understanding of the single photon energy as >> > defined by >> > E=hf >> > and let us go to the practical world >> > ok ?? >> > you say that actually we deal with a huge number of single photons >> > i agree! >> > you say that it is **waves* ok >> > waives of EM are photons as well ...right ?? >> > now >> > did you ever hear that >> > photon energy >> > **even for a huge number (bunch ) of single photons ** is detected and >> > measured-- during MUCH LESS THAN ONE SECOND ?!!!! >> >> > TIA >> > Y.Porat >> > ------------------------- >> >> Let's try something a little simpler for you. One plus one equals >> two. Maybe tomorrow we'll advance to one plus two. You're hopeless, >> Borat. > > ------------------------ > Bolshevik demagogue > just hand wavings is not enough > tocomvince 100 readers > that not all of them are idiots > > just bring > PHYSICS ARGUMENTS Why .. you just insult all those who do > for instance > questions for a secondary school boy : > > is E=hf > time defined or not It isn't. It is independent on any time duration. > 2 > is it time dependent or not It isn't. It is independent on any time duration. > > TIA > Y.Porat > ------------------------------ > is it time dependent ur not > and > explain your anawer !! You've had this explained countless times. You're not interested in the explanations or the truth .. it gets in the way of your copyright nonsense.
From: Y.Porat on 12 Apr 2010 11:26 On Apr 12, 2:15 pm, "Inertial" <relativ...(a)rest.com> wrote: > "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:d76e4744-ba53-4e68-8701-aac222753464(a)s9g2000yqa.googlegroups.com... > > > > > On Apr 12, 12:57 pm, Igor <thoov...(a)excite.com> wrote: > >> On Apr 11, 10:27 am, "Y.Porat" <y.y.po...(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > >> > On Apr 11, 3:27 pm, Igor <tho And you're a common bullshitter. > > >> > > > now please tell us > >> > > > what t is the definition of > >> > > > f from that hf ?? > > >> > -------------------- > >> > it seems that you have some difficulty in defining > >> > f > >> > so i will help you a bit > >> > here is the quote from Vilkipedia: > > >> > quote > >> > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > >> > time. It is also referred to as temporal frequency. The period is the > >> > duration of one cycle in a repeating event, so the period is the > >> > reciprocal of the frequency. > >> > end of quote: > >> > so f is > >> > Frequency is the number of occurrences of a repeating event per unit > >> > time. !!! > > >> > so > >> > as far as i know > >> > the unit of time FOR ALL SYSTEMS IS A > >> > SECOND ! > >> > right ?? > >> > ------------> It's the frequency of the wave. But hf is only the > >> > energy of a single > >> > > photon. > > >> > ----------------- > >> > and that is exactly what we try to find out > >> > BTW i could ask you right now > >> > did anyone ever detected the energy of a single photon?? > >> > for me it is a rhetoric question > >> > so lets leave it as for now > >> > i promise you that we will get to it later !! > >> > ------------- > >> > now you say that actually we deal with > >> > a huge number of single photons > >> > did i ever said some thing else ??.... > >> > anyway > >> > the formal definition of a single photon > >> > as we saw just above is > >> > E=hf rigtht ?? > >> > and > >> > E=hf IS **ONE SECOND DEPENDENT** > >> > AND **TIME DEPENDENT AS WELL!!* > >> > right ? > > >> > that is accepted by you at least theoretically as well right?? > >> > so let us keep you understanding of the single photon energy as > >> > defined by > >> > E=hf > >> > and let us go to the practical world > >> > ok ?? > >> > you say that actually we deal with a huge number of single photons > >> > i agree! > >> > you say that it is **waves* ok > >> > waives of EM are photons as well ...right ?? > >> > now > >> > did you ever hear that > >> > photon energy > >> > **even for a huge number (bunch ) of single photons ** is detected and > >> > measured-- during MUCH LESS THAN ONE SECOND ?!!!! > > >> > TIA > >> > Y.Porat > >> > ------------------------- > > >> Let's try something a little simpler for you. One plus one equals > >> two. Maybe tomorrow we'll advance to one plus two. You're hopeless, > >> Borat. > > > ------------------------ > > Bolshevik demagogue > > just hand wavings is not enough > > tocomvince 100 readers > > that not all of them are idiots > > > just bring > > PHYSICS ARGUMENTS > > Why .. you just insult all those who do > > > for instance > > questions for a secondary school boy : > > > is E=hf > > time defined or not > > It isn't. It is independent on any time duration. > > > 2 > > is it time dependent or not > > It isn't. It is independent on any time duration. >-------------------- can some of the **silent readers ** (only of the **silent readers* because we heard more than enough from those who already spoke ) so can some of those silent readers explain to Inertial why he is an imbecile ?? (is E=hf time defined and time dependent or not iow does the' f 'variable (there is no other variable there !!) makes it time defined and dependent ??) TIA Y.Porat --------------------- Y.Porat ---------------------------- TIA Y.Porat ---------------------- explain to Inertial why he is an imbecile !! > > > > TIA > > Y.Porat > > ------------------------------ > > is it time dependent ur not > > and > > explain your anawer !! > > You've had this explained countless times. You're not interested in the > explanations or the truth .. it gets in the way of your copyright nonsense.
From: Y.Porat on 12 Apr 2010 12:22
On Apr 12, 6:00 pm, Richard Dobson <richarddob...(a)blueyonder.co.uk> wrote: > On 12/04/2010 13:15, Inertial wrote: > .. > > > > >> for instance > >> questions for a secondary school boy : > > >> is E=hf > >> time defined or not > > > It isn't. It is independent on any time duration. > > >> 2 > >> is it time dependent or not > > > It isn't. It is independent on any time duration. > > Joule seconds anyone? > > Why is nobody discussing the definition (and units of) h in this thread? > > E.G. from:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Planck_constant > > "The Planck constant has dimensions of energy multiplied by time". Etc. > > Richard Dobson ----------------------- do you imagine that while i was dealing with it SOOO LONG... i ddint do it ??....(:-) so ?? what is your bottom line is it time defined and dependent or not?? TIA Y.Porat -------------------- |