And now the news from VODC Germany
in [Visual Objects]
|
Prev: Vo 2.7 Garbage Collector
Next: CRC32
From: Geoff on 10 Nov 2006 02:00 But Jamal you have to agree that it is disappointing to have everything slip again. Much was made of the release date for 2.8 and Vulcan being in time for the German conference and I suspect many people signed up on that basis. I guess Brian will give them a beta copy (the way he did for previous conferences) but the regular VO folks continue to suffer the delay. "jamal" <vodotnet???@???yahoo.com> wrote in message news:d4T4h.2629$9t4.2408(a)trnddc03: > KEEP ON BARKING! That's the norm for u around here! > > "Graham McKechnie" <gmknospam(a)bigpond.net.au> wrote in message > news:YkR4h.62095$rP1.30478(a)news-server.bigpond.net.au... > > > > So whats another missed deadline. Its the norm around here. > > > > Must be fun hanging out for a pdf which describes a product that may be > > released sometime before 2008, assuming they don't miss another deadline.
From: Rene J. Pajaron on 10 Nov 2006 05:40 Graham and company... a pdf is good read really. for this boring moments. anyway, VOPS is cheaper anyway... Bye for now Rene Ayon kay Graham McKechnie: > >I thought VO 2.8 and Vulcan 1.0 is set to be > > released at VODC. > > So whats another missed deadline. Its the norm around here. > > Must be fun hanging out for a pdf which describes a product that may be > released sometime before 2008, assuming they don't miss another deadline. > > > > "Rene J. Pajaron" <rjpajaron(a)gmail.com> wrote in message > > news:1163117396.299261.122160(a)h48g2000cwc.googlegroups.com... > > Thanks John, > > > > I understand the delay. I thought VO 2.8 and Vulcan 1.0 is set to be > > released at VODC. > > > > I hope Vulcan at warp speed pdf is available this weekend, so that it > > will give me a good read on somewhat boring timeline of my life--no > > exciting new things to do but crappy process clients wants next month > > or two. I might delay this as well because its Christmas vacation. > > > > A good read, but somewhat I need more!!!! > > > > Bye for now, got to work... > > > > Rene > > > > Ayon kay John Parker: > >> Dateline - 21:30 Cologne Germany > >> > >> > >> > >> As we reach the end of the second day of the German VODC conference, I > >> would > >> like to share with you all an update on the news. > >> > >> > >> > >> This has been another great conference and the organising team have done > >> a > >> wonderful job. There has always been plenty to see in each of the time > >> slots > >> and the hardest decision was choosing between the sessions. As a > >> conference > >> organiser myself, I know just how hard the team have had to work to make > >> this conference as good as it is. > >> > >> > >> > >> In the opening session the Development Team presented the current status > >> of > >> both Visual Objects and Vulcan.NET. > >> > >> > >> > >> Robert van der Hulst showed the current build of VO2.8, which focuses on > >> making the IDE a more productive environment. As well as the many bug > >> fixes, > >> this new version features an "all new" source code editor, debugger and > >> error browser. VOPS subscribers will soon be working with the new version > >> and general availability is anticipated to be the first quarter of 2007. > >> > >> > >> > >> Next up was Paul Piko who demonstrated the Vulcan.Net Transporter. This > >> utility is designed to achieve two goals. The first is to provide a > >> series > >> of code improvements that are applied directly to the source code in a > >> selected VO repository. These improvements arise from the continued > >> tightening of the language, which assists the compiler in producing a > >> more > >> robust output. The second goal is to extract the entities from the VO > >> project and automatically create a Vulcan.NET Visual Studio solution. The > >> Transporter also takes the proprietary VO window entity and produces > >> source > >> code that uses the .NET framework classes so that it can be edited using > >> the > >> Visual Studio form designer. > >> > >> > >> > >> Last of all, Don Caton presented the current status of Vulcan.NET. The > >> most > >> recent milestones include the support for codeblocks and the macro > >> compiler. > >> Vulcan's implementation of macro support has gone beyond the limitations > >> that are in Visual Objects. In the new compiler, any public function, > >> class > >> or class member can be invoked, as well as any .NET framework call, any > >> Vulcan runtime function, or any method in another class library. General > >> availability of Vulcan.NET is expected during the second quarter of 2007. > >> > >> > >> > >> All attendees were handed a bound printed copy of "Vulcan.NET At Warp > >> Speed", > >> the 173 page getting started guide. A PDF version of this book will be > >> available to everyone for download. The URL will be announced here in the > >> near future. > >> > >> > >> > >> Over these two days I have talked with several attendees who have been > >> very > >> excited about the Vulcan.NET applications that they have already created. > >> These ranged from a mobile device application accessing SQLMobile right > >> up > >> to a new 30,000 line desktop application. > >> > >> Finally, on behalf of the Development Team and all of the attendees, I > >> would > >> like to take the opportunity to thank the conference organisers, Sonja > >> Schletterer, Rudiger Kardel and team leader, Dieter Crispien who have > >> done > >> such a great job. > >> > >> > >> > >> Well, that's all for now, > >> > >> John > >
From: Dave Francis on 10 Nov 2006 06:39 John, Thanks for the update. After centuries of avoiding macros like the plague, looks like I need to open my mind to them again. Don appears to have reinvented them with a vengeance, if not with steroids :o) It must open up a whole new World for anyone doing data-driven stuff. Do you know of any other .Net language that can do this yet? Dave Francis "John Parker" <john(a)ukgts.com> wrote in message news:4rhh2hFr80tgU1(a)mid.individual.net... > Dateline - 21:30 Cologne Germany > > > > As we reach the end of the second day of the German VODC conference, I > would like to share with you all an update on the news. > > > > This has been another great conference and the organising team have done a > wonderful job. There has always been plenty to see in each of the time > slots and the hardest decision was choosing between the sessions. As a > conference organiser myself, I know just how hard the team have had to > work to make this conference as good as it is. > > > > In the opening session the Development Team presented the current status > of both Visual Objects and Vulcan.NET. > > > > Robert van der Hulst showed the current build of VO2.8, which focuses on > making the IDE a more productive environment. As well as the many bug > fixes, this new version features an "all new" source code editor, debugger > and error browser. VOPS subscribers will soon be working with the new > version and general availability is anticipated to be the first quarter of > 2007. > > > > Next up was Paul Piko who demonstrated the Vulcan.Net Transporter. This > utility is designed to achieve two goals. The first is to provide a series > of code improvements that are applied directly to the source code in a > selected VO repository. These improvements arise from the continued > tightening of the language, which assists the compiler in producing a more > robust output. The second goal is to extract the entities from the VO > project and automatically create a Vulcan.NET Visual Studio solution. The > Transporter also takes the proprietary VO window entity and produces > source code that uses the .NET framework classes so that it can be edited > using the Visual Studio form designer. > > > > Last of all, Don Caton presented the current status of Vulcan.NET. The > most recent milestones include the support for codeblocks and the macro > compiler. Vulcan's implementation of macro support has gone beyond the > limitations that are in Visual Objects. In the new compiler, any public > function, class or class member can be invoked, as well as any .NET > framework call, any Vulcan runtime function, or any method in another > class library. General availability of Vulcan.NET is expected during the > second quarter of 2007. > > > > All attendees were handed a bound printed copy of "Vulcan.NET At Warp > Speed", the 173 page getting started guide. A PDF version of this book > will be available to everyone for download. The URL will be announced here > in the near future. > > > > Over these two days I have talked with several attendees who have been > very excited about the Vulcan.NET applications that they have already > created. These ranged from a mobile device application accessing SQLMobile > right up to a new 30,000 line desktop application. > > Finally, on behalf of the Development Team and all of the attendees, I > would like to take the opportunity to thank the conference organisers, > Sonja Schletterer, Rudiger Kardel and team leader, Dieter Crispien who > have done such a great job. > > > > Well, that's all for now, > > John > > > >
From: Sherlock on 10 Nov 2006 07:07 snip[ it wasn't for Uncle Phil's little bit of faux pas and John's announcement, there wasn't much else. ] Thats because we all busy running businesses and making lots of money ! As most VO'ers are experienced VO'ers we do not need to get a lot of advice... Between VO + Php + Ajax + Crossfire + C# + Delphi... geez we have enough to do. Personally and eventually to get most of these under a .NET common code will good but it will take us 5 years to get to this... Phil McGuinness
From: rob on 10 Nov 2006 08:30
Dave, Yes ... Visual Basic.Net, C#.Net ... It's NOT magic. All you need to do is use the .NET compiler services. Rob Dave Francis wrote: > John, > > Thanks for the update. > > After centuries of avoiding macros like the plague, looks like I need to > open my mind to them again. Don appears to have reinvented them with a > vengeance, if not with steroids :o) > > It must open up a whole new World for anyone doing data-driven stuff. Do you > know of any other .Net language that can do this yet? > > Dave Francis > > "John Parker" <john(a)ukgts.com> wrote in message > news:4rhh2hFr80tgU1(a)mid.individual.net... > > Dateline - 21:30 Cologne Germany > > > > > > > > As we reach the end of the second day of the German VODC conference, I > > would like to share with you all an update on the news. > > > > > > > > This has been another great conference and the organising team have done a > > wonderful job. There has always been plenty to see in each of the time > > slots and the hardest decision was choosing between the sessions. As a > > conference organiser myself, I know just how hard the team have had to > > work to make this conference as good as it is. > > > > > > > > In the opening session the Development Team presented the current status > > of both Visual Objects and Vulcan.NET. > > > > > > > > Robert van der Hulst showed the current build of VO2.8, which focuses on > > making the IDE a more productive environment. As well as the many bug > > fixes, this new version features an "all new" source code editor, debugger > > and error browser. VOPS subscribers will soon be working with the new > > version and general availability is anticipated to be the first quarter of > > 2007. > > > > > > > > Next up was Paul Piko who demonstrated the Vulcan.Net Transporter. This > > utility is designed to achieve two goals. The first is to provide a series > > of code improvements that are applied directly to the source code in a > > selected VO repository. These improvements arise from the continued > > tightening of the language, which assists the compiler in producing a more > > robust output. The second goal is to extract the entities from the VO > > project and automatically create a Vulcan.NET Visual Studio solution. The > > Transporter also takes the proprietary VO window entity and produces > > source code that uses the .NET framework classes so that it can be edited > > using the Visual Studio form designer. > > > > > > > > Last of all, Don Caton presented the current status of Vulcan.NET. The > > most recent milestones include the support for codeblocks and the macro > > compiler. Vulcan's implementation of macro support has gone beyond the > > limitations that are in Visual Objects. In the new compiler, any public > > function, class or class member can be invoked, as well as any .NET > > framework call, any Vulcan runtime function, or any method in another > > class library. General availability of Vulcan.NET is expected during the > > second quarter of 2007. > > > > > > > > All attendees were handed a bound printed copy of "Vulcan.NET At Warp > > Speed", the 173 page getting started guide. A PDF version of this book > > will be available to everyone for download. The URL will be announced here > > in the near future. > > > > > > > > Over these two days I have talked with several attendees who have been > > very excited about the Vulcan.NET applications that they have already > > created. These ranged from a mobile device application accessing SQLMobile > > right up to a new 30,000 line desktop application. > > > > Finally, on behalf of the Development Team and all of the attendees, I > > would like to take the opportunity to thank the conference organisers, > > Sonja Schletterer, Rudiger Kardel and team leader, Dieter Crispien who > > have done such a great job. > > > > > > > > Well, that's all for now, > > > > John > > > > > > > > |